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Hi,
I see no comments about the new 2020 CRF1100L Africa Twin in this forum. Perhaps I'm not doing the search correctly
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Anyway, I've got delivery of mine past November and due to lack of time I haven't done many kilometers yet (1.500 actually). Still, I can leave a few words here.
The best for now:
electronic suspension adjustment, TFT dashboard, cornering lights, aerodynamic protection, new adjustments of DCT and throttle control, engine power from low revs, driver's seat confort, Bridgestone AX41 TR (tubless) behavior, fuel range (24,8L tank).
Still growing on me:
300 page user manual, finding the correct windscreen adjustment for my height, finding the indicator button with winter gloves, smartphone migration to IOS for compatibility with Apple Car Play.
Still waiting for delivery:
brackets for aluminum side cases
upper and lower crash bars
Could be better:
If commands where retroiluminated and Android Auto were available
Best regards
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Congrats with the bike in first place! Can't really Judge, but the new 1100 (especially the adventure) is darn expensive where I live.
Just cureousity… you wrote "If commands where retroiluminated…"; can you specify? Don't understand.
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As you've tried it, you've noticed handlebar commands are note illuminated...
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Congrats with the bike in first place! Can't really Judge, but the new 1100 (especially the adventure) is darn expensive where I live.
Just cureousity… you wrote "If commands where retroiluminated…"; can you specify? Don't understand.
He means the buttons to command
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I got my ATAS 2020 on the 5th of Jan 2020, Not automatic gear and not electronic forks. I have already done 4,000 kms on it and hope to come on it to Biesczczady. I find it quite complicated with all the knobs and screen. What I have learned so far only to warm the handles. I have owner's manual of 370 pages I tried to learn from it but does not help too complicated for me. I am suggesting to the agency to arrange for a learning day to learn the knobs.
The reason that made me go for it is tubeless. I refer to the ordeal I had two years ago on a puncture I had in Greece and the five hours I spent changing the inner tube.
Looking forward to meet you on VIM and exchang ideas on the bike.
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The reason that made me go for it is tubeless. I refer to the ordeal I had two years ago on a puncture I had in Greece and the five hours I spent changing the inner tube
JAck there is less expensive way to have tubeless on the bike !
and I put less then 1 hour to change the tube !
Happy to see you again on your new bike !
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I got my ATAS 2020 on the 5th of Jan 2020, Not automatic gear and not electronic forks. I have already done 4,000 kms on it and hope to come on it to Biesczczady. I find it quite complicated with all the knobs and screen. What I have learned so far only to warm the handles. I have owner's manual of 370 pages I tried to learn from it but does not help too complicated for me. I am suggesting to the agency to arrange for a learning day to learn the knobs.
The reason that made me go for it is tubeless. I refer to the ordeal I had two years ago on a puncture I had in Greece and the five hours I spent changing the inner tube.
Looking forward to meet you on VIM and exchang ideas on the bike.
truly magnificent
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my 2020 crf 1100 -
Hello Wild1, nice bike
Better if you make a presentation (and from your bike) in the right thread .
Do not hesitate to share your experience(s) into the riding report thread too.
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Today I did it
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Enjoy your new and welcome in the (sub) family Sure you see difference from your "old" Vara !
Waiting for your journeys in the report threads
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I was invited on the release event and yeah I think Honda went pretty wrong here, I'm a bit of a geek
but they complicated the operations too darn much, it's crazy, worse than a BMuu even.
I wasn't going to change as you most know I got a Tiger 800, but in comparison, it is illuminated controls
and no need to even read the manual, that's in my opinion better.
Coulnd't afford one even if I wanted to, because prices in Switzerland are pure insanity, Paid my Tiger
with aluminum luggage 15K CHF, for equivalent build with ATAS 1100, the price is 21'863 CHF and I
can't say the Honda looks "better" finishing whise than the Triumph, Honda went crazy
a Ducati
Multistrada 1260 costs the same… (normal AT1100 speced up 18'862, almost 4K more than my 2016) -
Not sure you can compare a 1100 @T with a 800 Tiger Reynald ! compare with the 1200 T (from 16 100€/18 300CHF) & in the future you can compare the new T@ with 800 ... or 900 wich is from 13 400€/ 13900CHF !!! please do not compare either prices from Adventure 20 (with options) with AT 16 ...
You cannot compare CRF 1000 & 1100; very different bikes even if they look alike ... more displacement, more power, more torque, more equipment, better finish ... something different. and no the dashboard is not so complicate; have to ride some days to understand , but after run-in time everything is understood and under control .
Hope to meet you !
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Not sure you can compare a 1100 @T with a 800 Tiger Reynald ! compare with the 1200 T (from 16 100€/18 300CHF) & in the future you can compare the new T@ with 800 ... or 900 wich is from 13 400€/ 13900CHF !!! please do not compare either prices from Adventure 20 (with options) with AT 16 ...
You cannot compare CRF 1000 & 1100; very different bikes even if they look alike ... more displacement, more power, more torque, more equipment, better finish ... something different. and no the dashboard is not so complicate; have to ride some days to understand , but after run-in time everything is understood and under control .
Hope to meet you !
I understand your point, but for me it's not all about displacement, it's about what the motorcycle is capable
and equiped to do with reasonable power, but especially now I want lighter weight.
Long distance riding is amazingly easy with the Tiger because it's light (215kg), still 95hp is closer to 105hp
(1100) than the 140hp of the T1200 and being lighter i do not miss more power.
I get more Equipment even on a T800 for cheaper than a normal 1100, even better with T900, hence the ATAS
comparison for Equipment needs.
Anything else from Triumph, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, is cheaper, to put it simply the new normal AT against
my older one increased 22%, I really did not see the better finish, if this is only for 100cc and IMU, I find this
very difficult to swallow, that's how I see it and unfortunately my Honda dealer offered me a worse cashback
than Triumph.
BTW I absolutely dislike the T900 design, find it ugly, that's why I did not really want one, but they are extremely
well priced Triumph, even the 950 multistrada is more affodable than Hondas.
Sorry I'm not here to dislike the 1100, it's obviously a great machine and I'm happy if you have fun with yours,
just wanted to give me experience, that Honda pushed me out of their brand services are more expensive than
Triumph, on top of higher original pricees, so with my 30'000+ KM per year easy choice.
I also Wonder if I'll ever buy a Euro 5 or further (6, 7, 8...), with higher CC consuming more and more fuel, so
paying more and throttle control feels worse with every new model and that's for all brands, I understand the
need of lowering the emissions, but using 5-10% more fuel every new norm is kind counter balancing this. -
Also hope you all are healthy after all this crap, hope we can meet, but it is really still impossible for me to
plan vacations, I've been not working 3 months
only starting now 40% will see when I can travel.
Enjoy riding