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My mechanic told me at last service - 60Km that my exhaust was leaking and needed to be repacked. Not sure how hard to do - any advice and references anyone can provide? I now have 70KM and think it is noiser than before at 30-40KM.
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Not heard about exhaust at this mileage (you mean 70Mkm I think
instead of 70Km?) The rear join have to be changed often... any info of which model you have ? Thx
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yes I meant 70000 km. It is audibly noisier and thnk i can smell exhaust but of course before mechanic told me it sounded about same and only occasional odor.
Think you need to take an awful lot of plastic off to get to headers and pipes so would be expensive. Prefer not to spend dollars on that - prefer gas and beer while on road trips!
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I'm confused; can you be more precise as to where you think it is "blowing" and needs repacking (mufflers?) ...it's not a 2-stroke
Is it the lower left side joint near the swing-arm? If so, there are several post on this site for a fix.
As you're in Canada, we can assume it's a 2008-2010 model
I doubt that you're near me (NW BC), otherwise, I'd strip her down with you for a couple beers
I'd get someone else to look at it if your not comfortable with the "mechanics" description. Most of the work on the Varadero is relatively simple but can consume many hours ($labour$) in stripping the bike just to get to the parts to do the work and then to put it all together again. That's usually, my winter project
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The gasket on the joint between the rear cylinder and the collector box will have failed an dissapeared.
It will sound noisy and will bang and pop on overrun.
Have a look at http://www.honda-varadero-uk.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Gasket
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yes I meant 70000 km. It is audibly noisier and thnk i can smell exhaust but of course before mechanic told me it sounded about same and only occasional odor.
Follow SB's advice. It's not that hard to do, Honda sells the gaskets for around 12 bux a piece, or you can get them online in the states for around 8 bux if you're close to the border.
Think you need to take an awful lot of plastic off to get to headers and pipes so would be expensive. Prefer not to spend dollars on that - prefer gas and beer while on road trips!
Any ideas of how hard job is and what it entails including special tools etc.?
I don't have them handy, but I'll get you the Honda part numbers later today. You'll need the ring gasket for the front cylinder header as well, 2 or 3 bux.. -
yes I meant 70000 km. It is audibly noisier and thnk i can smell exhaust but of course before mechanic told me it sounded about same and only occasional odor.
Follow SB's advice. It's not that hard to do, Honda sells the gaskets for around 12 bux a piece, or you can get them online in the states for around 8 bux if you're close to the border.
Think you need to take an awful lot of plastic off to get to headers and pipes so would be expensive. Prefer not to spend dollars on that - prefer gas and beer while on road trips!
Any ideas of how hard job is and what it entails including special tools etc.?
I don't have them handy, but I'll get you the Honda part numbers later today. You'll need the ring gasket for the front cylinder header as well, 2 or 3 bux..
...if you're in Vancouver go see Lori Sweet at The Honda Center, she'll fix you up. -
I am having these three gaskets in mine replaced today. Going downhill with the engine hot was a "bang concert"
I believe they are for some 6-7 EUR + VAT each. Plus labour, of course.
Speaking about labour. I remember reading there were two different procedures to reach these gaskets, "from above" and "from below", one of which was quite more time consuming than the other. I've got no idea of mechanics, and I don't know the details of these two procedures (assuming they exist), I leave this comment here just for you DIY guys may be aware that perhaps there's a better way to do it than the one you use
In my case, only one is burnt (the one closest to the cylinder), but the other ones are not guaranteed to stand through the process of replacing the one burnt, so I'm having the three of them replaced.
According to my mechanic, these gaskets used to be made of asbestos and metal fibers. Of course, given their toxicity, they are no more, but materials used today lack the good performances of the old ones.
Greetings,
Josep -
I've just come from my mechanic's.
I had three gaskets replaced (code 18392mk4000) at 6.72+VAT each.
I believe these are the ones sold at bike-parts-honda.com for 8.36 each (part number 15 in the 2004ABS microfiche). But in the same website, one can see that in a 1999 Varadero, there are TWO different gaskets (parts 13 and 14 in the microfiche). The one closer to the rear cyclinder (the one that first fails) is worth 13.99, whereas the other two sell for 8.36 .
Greetings,
Josep -
JoesphM - how many hours of labour did the mechanic charge for the replacement of the 3 gaskets?
Thanks David -
JoesphM - how many hours of labour did the mechanic charge for the replacement of the 3 gaskets?
Thanks David
I don't exactly know.
Change oil + replace rear brake pads + replace 3 gaskets = 2h36min
I believe that having luggage holder makes this operation more time consuming...
Greetings,
Josep -
My mechanic told me at last service - 60Km that my exhaust was leaking and needed to be repacked. Not sure how hard to do - any advice and references anyone can provide? I now have 70KM and think it is noiser than before at 30-40KM.
Thanks
Check this page. It should have been taken offline (ended the services of this provider) but it's still good to use. Take special notice to the VW part which should be available on your side of the Atlantic too:
http://users.bart.nl/~stikfort/new_international_site/warranty_exhaustgasket.html
The text part before it dissapeares...:
Location of the defect clamp/Gasket:
The defect clamp/gasket is located between the chain and the rear shock unit. It is the first clamp of the rear cylinder. It is not the gasket which is causing the problem, but the clamp. However, the defect clamp can-; and will result in a defect gasket as well!
On my previous 2 Varadero's I have changed the original Honda clamp by a Volkswagen clamp (Part Nr.: 191-253-139). Please notice: this is NOT a 36 mm clamp, but 46,7 mm. Estimated price indication: € 5,- / 7,-. When ordering these parts, be sure to take the original Honda clamp with you, including the mountings!
The job:
How to replace the clamp:
- Remove the left cap and chain protector. Remove the old clamp and bent the new one on the top side of the rear fork around the exhaust pipe (1)
- Apply exhaust assembly paste (For example ‘Presto’) on the parts before re-assembling;
- Lower the clamp and turn the mounting bolt tight.
On the pictures beside you will notice the new clamp in place. Its nr 11 on the Honda fiche. -
and the remaining:
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That's only the clamp. You could also use the DIY clamp which is shown on Steward (SB) link. It can be made from bronze, or aluminum.
You still need to add the gasket. I would recommend to use about 1,5 gasket in combination with either the VW clamp, or the DIY clamp.
NB: the rear cylinder exhaust is not very easy accessible...! I can't get you an estimated time path, cause in my previous conditions the job was done under warranty. On my current bike (licenced 2012) its still original (14.000 km on the ODO) -
If you're still interested here are the Honda North America part numbers.
My Honda dealer said all three gaskets are the same, that number. The gasket is 1" long.
Both readily available through your dealer or online in the States..