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By mistake, the German post-order company Louis published the new unexpected TomTom Rider v400 in their digital catalogue. Updates towards the current v5: faster interaction with bluetooth systems like cellphone / camera / PM3-4 players, and easier interface with downloadable (pre- ride) roadbooks (unlimited waypoints); larger internal memory.
Nothing about an expected price tag though. I was planning to buy the v5 this summer, but I guess I'm going to wait a few more extra months if the price is right.
Livelong map updates and combination with the - excellent - route software from TYRE stays the way it is. -
Note: I pruned away any unrelated postings and made a split. This topic is about the new TomTom Rider v400; but we have to wait for further details and information till the device is officially introduced.
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I have made the purchase.
From tomorrow its installed on the Dero.
Keep you posted about the likes and dislikes.
In a week from now, I will use it for a 200km tour which I made for our company. Will be the first official test. -
A little bit off topic
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I hope it will works better then the one you have for the past VCIM 
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It will Zebulon and you are ONtopic!
The problem (wrong of me, not really a problem more a minor downside... ) of the Rider v2 (and v5) was that when a *.gpx was converted, it 'narrowed' the waypoints back to 48. Everybody could imagine, that if you would transfer an *.gpx track with - lets say - 2500 waypoints to the *.itn file TomTom uses on the v1, 2 ans 5, valuable information could get lost.
Therefor, I use a 'breadcrumbletrail' convertor which replaces a *.gpx (or *.gdb) one-to-one to a dotted line, placing a POI at every 60 meters. Normaly I use both simultaneously and follow the dotted line if it differs from the *.itn track, cause I know this is the 100% copy of the original where *.itn could choose its own verseon.
Where did VCIM17 roadbook nr.2 got misty? Well... I only converted your roadbook to *.itn and did not used my backup security system. My faulth, the pilot is to blame!
The new v400 is complete different towards earlier riders. It depends fully on *.gpx - both on tracklogs, and on imported roadbooks / tracks; and there is no limit on waypoints anymore.
TomTom was already nr. 1 in A to B navigation, but with this new v40/v400 series they have finally taking motorcycling seriously! -
I am sure that TomTom finally got it right, but I bought my Zumo 500 about ten years ago and it still functions as I want it to. Sticking to TTR did cost you a lot of money, but I do agree with you: for A to B navigation a Zumo500 is garbage and you are better of with a TTR.
Keep us posted on your expierence with the new TTR since my zumo lost a button and Garmin is no longer willing to delicer the parts. A piece of duct tape does the trick, but when I buy a new bike, the navigation will also be replaced. -
I will Menno!
But... looking at f.e. the problems many members in the Dutch Transalp Club had with Garmin (not with the device it self, but with the bad service offered by Garmin!) I don't understand your remark 'Sticking to TTR did cost you a lot of money', because... it did never.
The issues I had with my rider I (power supply from the bike) have been solved by TomTom far beyond the 2 yrs warranty. Repairs (send and receive to TomTom) never took more than 5 days.
Even the housing (which was a little damaged because I dropped it...
) was replaced for a new one without costs. 'Goodwill gesture', TomTom replied...
Despite the fact that it was running on 'illegal' maps from the WWW... Don't blame me for being Dutch, cause I am!
Some one has seen the light @ TomTom. Map updates are livelong from the v5. The 'choose the most winding roads' option is genius. Within that option, you can even narrow your path of choice to 'small roads, 50/50 or 'main roads' (in my current Rider v2). It took us on some marvellous side-roads I would never had picked from a paper map! In the new V400 there is also a combination with 'choose the highest difference in altitude' (passes)... Will see how that one fits the bill in the Lowlands @ the North Sea!
The only downside I see (also from the v2 and later devices) is that it is equipped with a solid internal memory. On the Rider vI you could simply exchange the 2G SD card for a larger and faster one.
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Did the first stormy 40 km back to home. First impressions are good. Despite the change in software regarding to the v2 and v5, operation the v400 is intuitive. It is totally different than the v2/5 but you just know how to select options; just seems all so natural and logic. without the obligate 'Read The F* Manual'.
The mount on the bike (incl wiring) is good to. It looks more solid and durable than the cable connections of the v2.
