My point of view:
Now, after the poll, we need a decission of the Orga of VIM.
Do the Orga take the decission as in the vote or do the Orga do another decission.
Some need the decission earlier others are not in a hurry.
If the decission is taken by the Orga, the Orga should as well do a statement for refunding or partial refunding (only the acco and catering, not batches, shirts etc.) the participants.
This depends on the how they got an agreement with the host of VIM (in Germany the host has, by law, to refund the accos and catering because of exceptional circumstances [CORONA-Pandemie]).
I am waiting now.
Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke
Yes, some communication will be appreciate ...
I also see no further reason for a delay...
I have made up my own mind: I will not participate if VIM22 will be held this year, either next May or September.
The only reason is the voting, which lasts until 13 of April, organized by Stewart (who really helps and not just help declares).
Immediately after the vote, I will publish the majority decision.
I suggest to follow the previous arrangements.
Kris
Kris
Stewart locked the voting thread once a majority had voted for 2021 so there will be no need to wait until the 13th of April for your views.
I have cancelled my hotel reservations and can postpone my ferry booking until next year.
I very much hope that we will be in Poland in 2021.
The money I have paid for attendance can stay with you. Saves messing about with exchange rates and paypal fees again.
If the prices go up for 2021 then I will send the difference when VIM in 2021 is announced.
Regards
Martyn
AKA The Prodded Dog
It's true, voting is closed and most voters decided to postpone VIM-22 to May next year.
I'll follow your choice and treat it as the will of the majority!
Given the above, I'll inform OBCY (owner of Myczkowianka) about your decision and I'll ask him to book the date of May 21-24, 2021 for VIM-22.
I expect the price of the VIM-22 will not change and all your reservation in Myczkowianka will be moved to a new date.
I'll do my best to organize VIM for you next year and I hope without surprises this time.
I'ill back to you asap with the final confirmation of this information.
Kris
It's true, voting is closed and most voters decided to postpone VIM-22 to May next year.
I'll follow your choice and treat it as the will of the majority!
Given the above, I'll inform OBCY (owner of Myczkowianka) about your decision and I'll ask him to book the date of May 21-24, 2021 for VIM-22.
I expect the price of the VIM-22 will not change and all your reservation in Myczkowianka will be moved to a new date.
I'll do my best to organize VIM for you next year and I hope without surprises this time.
I'ill back to you asap with the final confirmation of this information.
Kris
i have managed to transfer my return ferry from harwich/hoek of holland to an open ticket, so at least i havent lost that. i can use it this year or next year, as long as i book it by the 30th of november this year, so hopefully you will be able to let us guys know by then the new confirmed dates for next years meet. keep safe, dave.
The solution due to the CORONA-crisis of the German Varadero Meeting (VDT):
Hello Varadero friends,
we hope you could relax a little bit during Easter, despite the unusual situation, and stayed healthy.
Regarding the VDT 2020, we thought about it for a long time and discussed what we should do now. We have decided that the most sensible thing in the current situation is to postpone the meeting until next year. We are of the opinion that, since it is also the 20th anniversary, it should be a carefree festival, which we all enjoy without reservation and have fun with. Everything has been clarified with the host so that the 20th VARADERO meeting on
May 13 - 16.05.2021
will be held. What does this mean in detail:
The landlord has promised us that the meeting can be postponed under the same conditions
The free cancellation period for your booking extends until March 31, 2021
Your bookings remain and the down payments or total payments remain in the Varadero account.
If for whatever reason you want to cancel now, this is not a problem. Write us a short email to vdt2020@xxx.xx and you will receive the deposit or total payment transferred back.
As already announced, the polos are already finished and will be sent to you promptly free of charge by post. XXX and YYY have agreed to embroider an addition with the actual date 2021 under the existing one free of charge for those of you who want this. Those of you who want this please email xxx@xxx.xx.
The order list for the meeting sticker remains as it is on the board. Here only the request that those of you who will not be there next year will unsubscribe.
Last but not least, if you still want to register for the next year, you can of course do so. Of course, stickers and polo shirts can also still be ordered. Perhaps the new appointment fits one or the other who was not yet registered better in his schedule.
It is a pity that there will be no VDT this year, but as is well known, postponing is not canceled. We would be happy to welcome you to the next year healthy and lively in Eitorf to celebrate a carefree, happy party with you.
Best regards from Essen and stay healthy
VDT Orgateam
So we are not alone
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Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke
Surely some concrete information here too...
@Gilles, it seems to me Rainer is proposing for VIM #23 on that location in 2022...
@Bernhard,
the problem is in GERMANY, we donīt have / I donīt know a place where we have camping; huts and hotel all together in one place.
And if, I would not do it in that area of VDT 2020/21.
I had been at a camping with all together - in the Black Forest - but they told me at Pentecost the camping is always booked with regular guests
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Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke
PS: And then this would be the third VIM in GERMANY, there are other beautiful places in Europe, where we hadnīt a VIM yet
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Hey all,
here is an extract from a statement by our (Austria) government on the subject of travel. I assume that we (Austrians) May, June, July, August will not make great trips abroad.
I will cancel my reserved room at the Hotel Spa next week (KW17). I will wait a bit for the contribution to the VIM and make my decision a little later. Postpone or cancel.
... 51 percent of people in Austria miss traveling, according to a Gallup survey published on Sunday. However, it could take a long time before they are allowed to travel again: Chancellor Sebastian Kurz (ÖVP) said in an interview with the federal state newspapers (Sunday edition): "As long as there is no vaccination or effective medication, this disease will accompany us. The unrestricted freedom of travel as we have known it will not last that long.
Does that mean you can't go abroad or travel to Austria until then? In any case, the Chancellor cannot imagine "that we can defeat this disease in Austria and then negligent import it from other countries". As the "time in the picture" learned from the Federal Chancellery, there should not be a general travel ban, but restrictions should apply to risk countries that have to be defined first....
best regards and stay healthy
Kurt