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new Transalp for 2021

Started by zebulon, April 08, 2020, 14:00:42

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zebulon

During this time Honda's R&D still working on the bike which doesn't exist  ;D they say a few months ago there are no "small AT", but as expected it can be presented in EICMA ...



MCN article here

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Two Plugs

Old news and not confirmed. Chance is more likely that Honda will come with a "small" Africa Twin, with a 750/850 capacity. Hence the upgrade of the Africa Twin from 1.000 to 1.100.
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zebulon

Nothing else is said here Bernard. A new Transalp/Africa twin on the base of the NX motor , with 800 cc (790) . Seems there is a bundle of concordances this time on this information .
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Jyrays

Hi, you must mean Honda NC engine? So far 750 cc is the biggest.
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zebulon

Yes NC sorry .... upgraded from 750 to 790 cc  VCIF_salut
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I think if this bike would be in the pipeline, it would be an instand succes; looking how well for example Yamaha T7 and Beamer F800GS are selling... Honda doesn't have a real compatitor.
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With NC engine it would not became a competitor to the other mentioned bikes...
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zebulon

but Honda have others weapons than power  VCIF_ok
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Quote from: Jyrays on April 09, 2020, 17:05:17
With NC engine it would not became a competitor to the other mentioned bikes...

I think a detuned CRF1100 engine would be the best guess, Jyrki. The NC750 engine is good, but technically its at its end of possibilities, based on a 'cut-to-half' Honda 1400cc Jazz car engine; where the CRF1000/1100 are new designed powerplants.
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zebulon

perhaps/surely less expensive to upgrade NC's motor, then downsizing the heavier AT's...  ;)
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Honda NC700X DCT
Past: Honda VFR 1200 X Crosstourer / Honda SLR 650 / HONDA XLV 1000 Varadero / Honda XR 650 R / KTM 640 LC4 / Honda CB1100 / Yamaha XJ 850 / Honda CB 500 1977...

Djairouks

Until Honda manages to lighten their bikes, they'll always be behind, a Tracer 700 weighs 196Kg
while the NC750 weighs 220Kg  har_scratch.

zebulon

CRF1100 is lighter then CRF1000  VCIF_ThumbUp
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MrKiwi

It is nice to speculate, but I would not be surprised if Honda bring out a mid-sized engine Africa Twin. Unlikely that they will develop a brand new motor, so it is more likely to be based on an existing motor as many of you have already noted.
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zebulon

Honda have registered the name "Transalp" in the USA these days... it will be a parallel twin of 790cc ...
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