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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #195 on: November 05, 2018, 22:17:14 »
Somebody has experience with these?

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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #196 on: November 06, 2018, 03:59:08 »
Somebody has experience with these?

Metzeler Karoo Street

https://www.metzeler.com/en-ww/products/tyres/karoo-street#gallery-0
They look interesting. Might try this on my AT next time I replace tires.
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #197 on: November 06, 2018, 12:06:33 »
Waiting for your report friends ! Love the Tourance on my Varaderos till they become "next" , from that date I hate them (I felt like I was falling in each turn ) and change to Bridgestone .
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #198 on: November 06, 2018, 13:16:10 »
Metzeler Karoo street profile

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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #199 on: November 07, 2018, 08:25:21 »
You know lately I bought a 2nd mistress and old love of mine from Yamaha, a Fazer 8 to do everyday riding, it is better to me on highways.

So it led me to compare handling capabilities and while the position and ergos are of course totally different, I feel on the Yamaha I am in total control, meaning I can also do crap.
On the Honda, I feel more ease it's less physically engaging, but I also feel a kind of "autopilot" factor, where it takes the lines without me working and sometimes I would rather place the motorcycle myself in turns.

Not sure this is relatable to any of you, but is this a tire brand feel, because I've only used continental on the Honda and the Yamaha always Dunlops. Or is this just the 21 to 17 inch front feel !?

I'm contemplating eventually changing to 19rims, so this interests me !

Do not know you've changed the bike... 8) sure a lot of elements, geometry of the frame, size of the wheels, manufacturer of the tires; an AT can be very different with different tires; so comparing different bike is much difficult; but it's why there is a choice of different models  ;D
took recently a Crossrunner during the AT's revision; and very difficult for me with 17" front wheel; and it was difficult to retrieve the 21" on the first turns ...
So yes each element have its matter , (IMO). And you've to choose which are the best for you  ...
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Thanks Zebulon, I think on my next tires change I'll try the Pirelli Scorpions, see if it gives me the sportier feeling I'd like on paved roads.

I understand what you're explaining, but the theoretical notion that 21" is better for obstacles and gyroscopic force makes it more stable,
as well as more difficult to turn, I really feel the opposite, my 17" Yamaha is definitely harder on the arms and doesn't lean as naturally
as the AT, that's why I'm a bit puzzled !
Like all the bike testers saying AT is supreme on dirt but last on pavement, well, last year only 2 people could hold my rear wheel in twisties,
a guy with a KTM 1290 and another with a Multistrada 1200, so I love this bike, that said this "autopilot" feel is weird at times.

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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #200 on: November 10, 2018, 03:09:41 »

That's good news. Guess we'll have to wait until spring for more distance on your tires.
Put my bike away last weekend, too. 9,000 kilometres and still lots of tread left on the Michelin Anakee Wild. A bit of feathering on the outsides of some of the knobs but it still rides smooth on the road and works just fine in gravel and dirt.

Have put some more kils on my anakee wild this WE. Tried twisties roads, and (for instance) not so confident as with TKC70; not so precise in driving turns.
In off road condition obviously perfect; we've ride rocks (not so hard), tracks with a lot of dead leaves and melting snow; I was every time in confidence, bike stay (quietly  ;D ) every time where I want she was; and fabulous traction every time  ...  VCIF_ThumbUp
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #201 on: February 25, 2019, 10:57:31 »
Just came upon this interesting test, seems less of a motorcycle journal typical tester and sounds these Karoo street might be the best compromise indeed !
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/motorcycle-tyres/tested-metzeler-karoo-street-adventure-tyre-review

Also interesting to know Metzeler and Pirelli are the same company, so I might skip the Scorpion trail 2 and try these Karoo next !

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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #202 on: February 25, 2019, 12:49:30 »
How fast they wear out?
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #203 on: February 25, 2019, 13:37:06 »
How fast they wear out?

Didn't order yet so can't say, but after all my Continental tires doing good mileage but running square, these should be better as they
are said to be similare rubber to Pirelli ST2, that would make sense as it's actually joint companies.
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #204 on: February 25, 2019, 20:57:00 »
Somebody has experience with these?

Metzeler Karoo Street

https://www.metzeler.com/en-ww/products/tyres/karoo-street#gallery-0

I've got them for about 2k klms now and I must say I'm impressed.
They handle road conditions (dry, wet, snow) as good or better than the tkc70 I've had before.

The noise they produce is louder than the tkc's but for these type of tires it's more than ok for me.

I haven't been off-road for the moment so I can't comment on it.

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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #205 on: February 26, 2019, 13:22:35 »
Somebody has experience with these?

Metzeler Karoo Street

https://www.metzeler.com/en-ww/products/tyres/karoo-street#gallery-0

I've got them for about 2k klms now and I must say I'm impressed.
They handle road conditions (dry, wet, snow) as good or better than the tkc70 I've had before.

The noise they produce is louder than the tkc's but for these type of tires it's more than ok for me.

I haven't been off-road for the moment so I can't comment on it.
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So I have to choose between them, Anakee Wild and TCK80...
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #206 on: February 26, 2019, 16:00:52 »
Landed on this tire today while looking for winter stuff, maybe Norwegians and Finns know about it.

http://www.anlas-tyres.co.uk/winter-grip-plus-tested-on-africa-twin-sport/

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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #207 on: February 26, 2019, 19:05:12 »
Landed on this tire today while looking for winter stuff, maybe Norwegians and Finns know about it.

http://www.anlas-tyres.co.uk/winter-grip-plus-tested-on-africa-twin-sport/

beginning of a discution here but not too much answer for instance ...  :-X
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #208 on: February 26, 2019, 19:15:54 »
Landed on this tire today while looking for winter stuff, maybe Norwegians and Finns know about it.

http://www.anlas-tyres.co.uk/winter-grip-plus-tested-on-africa-twin-sport/
Turkish tire, no idea about it yet...
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #209 on: March 03, 2019, 02:37:11 »
Here's a video of an owner of a motorcycle shop in Eastern Canada (Quebec) taking the winter tires for a ride.



Not for snow necessarily but for cold weather conditions approaching zero degrees Celsius.
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