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It is in my modest opinion nonsense to dislike a concept before anyone of us has seen- or tried the real thing. Wanna have shaft ride? Get a Crosstourer, Super Tenere or GS 1200 and pay apr € 5.000,- more compared with a Varadero-priced bike like Suzuki's DL1000V or Kawa's Versys 1000. In that aspect, the big KTM and especially the Multistrade are HEAVELY overprized. But I have seen nor read a single testrapport on which any of the previous bikes had a bad rating due to the fact that they have chain and sprockets in stead of shaft drive... If Honda manages to keep the price between € 12.000,- / 13.500,- just looking at the supposed specs, it will be a winner. For sure it makes the overweight and gasgussling VFR1200X Crosstourer to a Dinosaur in one singe stroke.
Has anyone noticed it doesn't have a clutch lever !
Hey, that's no way to talk about my new buy lol. But you're right Two Plugs. I wanted a road touring oriented bike with a shaft drive. The CT was a perfect fit. But I'm under no illusions, the CT is no good off tarmac and hard packed gravel routes. The new AT is designed to be a dirt oriented adventure bike. There's no way you'd put a shaft drive on a bike designed for heavy off road use. I like the direction Honda has taken with this new bike.
From some of the photos it looks like the front sprocket is located centered to the swing arm shaft, in a similar manner as some 450/650 BMuu models are constructed. If so, Honda has taken care of the no. 1 issue that owners of the existing Africa Twin have: risk of a worn output shaft due to wrong chain tension.I would not be surprised if Honda has paid a little extra attention to the regulator/rectifier and the fuel pump as well...In fact, I believe that Honda has looked a lot on what the owners of the existing Arica Twin wants. Apart from more hp/torque, the design looks very much like what many rebuild projects are trying to achieve; boano-looking fairing, the curve of the exhaust system/silencer and so on. And the main frame looks very XR650R. This could be the ideal mix of those two (dead reliable) bikes!I have never bought a brand new bike before, but as a present owner of both an xr650r and a xrv750 (africa twin), I will definitly start saving up money."You meet the nicest people on a Honda"
What's "boano-looking"? Josep
QuoteLets wait and see how the real thing is going to be, Gerard. Than - and only than - we can make a proper conclusion how proper 'adventureas' this new bike will be. For the moment, it can have my credits. Even more than my current Varadero. Yep, let's see.Also I was, probably incorrectly, expecting a final PROD model that would be in shops in weeks rather than months... This much anticipation is a drag quite frankly.
Lets wait and see how the real thing is going to be, Gerard. Than - and only than - we can make a proper conclusion how proper 'adventureas' this new bike will be. For the moment, it can have my credits. Even more than my current Varadero.
Since Honda is planning a full press trip on the bike(s) soon (within the next 3/4 months or so) I guess pre production models will/must be available.
Great! Maybe same location as the CT's?
Both wrong. Further South. Think Treu Adventure....
from my searches this is what I know about the bike:- 20 L tank- 21 inch front, 18 inch rear wheels- 1000cc parallel twin - a new engine from Honda- about 200kgs with fuel (a very good outcome for a bike this size)- DCT and manual clutch versions will be available Bike will be in shows in 2015, probably second or third quarter.
Think it will be 1000cc with manual and DCT gearbox; sales from September 2015 ...