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The Varadero International Meeting (VIM) - where riders of our forum meet => VIM22 (postponed to 2022); June 3 -6, Poland => Topic started by: Two Plugs on July 16, 2019, 12:40:35

Title: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Two Plugs on July 16, 2019, 12:40:35
Dear members & friends of VIM,

We are happy to announce next years VIM #22!

(https://i.postimg.cc/7LZSGxVB/VIM22-2022.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Varaderoforum/i-nMbBTbN/0/10493261/XL/Bieszczady-XL.jpg)

VIM22 will be hosted in the beautiful area of Biesczczady, in the far south-east of Poland, near the borders with Slovakia and Ukraine. To be more precise the meeting is planned at the Myczkowianka motorbike station.

More information will follow soon. Keep visiting the forum and this topic for updates.

The Admin & VIM22 Orgateam.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: BjørnHagesæter on July 16, 2019, 14:15:58
Exited. VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: texas on July 16, 2019, 15:25:09
Waiting for booking info...
 VCIF_ThumbUp VCIF_ThumbUp VCIF_ThumbUp VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: meine dicke on July 16, 2019, 15:43:23
Waiting for booking info...
 VCIF_ThumbUp VCIF_ThumbUp VCIF_ThumbUp VCIF_ThumbUp

So do I  VCIF_a040hae VCIF_a040hae VCIF_a040hae.

Thanks a lot to everyone being activ in the setting up orga team  VCIF_999_ VCIF_999_ VCIF_999_


Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: biker76 (Mr calva ) on July 16, 2019, 17:30:47
 8) VCIF_ThumbUp VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Two Plugs on July 16, 2019, 20:15:27
After 3 years with relatively late bookingstarts I am not going  to make any statements anymore about the opening of either registration nor booking, except that it might be expected somewhere the next 10 months  8) ;D
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Bruvex on July 16, 2019, 20:26:16
Hope to be there with you guys and girls!
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: oll on July 18, 2019, 18:23:22
Looking forward to it. /Olle
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: BARKAS on July 19, 2019, 17:52:54
Many thanks to orgteam for this great news!
See you next year!   :)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jyrays on August 11, 2019, 14:07:09
Dear members & friends of VIM,

We are happy to announce next years VIM #22!

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Varaderoforum/i-nMbBTbN/0/10493261/XL/Bieszczady-XL.jpg)

VIM22 will be hosted in the beautiful area of Biesczczady, in the far south-east of Poland, near the borders with Slovakia and Ukraine. To be more precise the meeting is planned at the Myczkowianka motorbike station.

More information will follow soon. Keep visiting the forum and this topic for updates.

The Admin & VIM22 Orgateam.

Good news. Should it be Bieszczady? You have too many C in your keyboard  ;D

Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: bogdanbc on August 11, 2019, 22:31:47
Yes - correct is BIESZCZADY, in old ancient language it was Bies-czady so it means something like "Devil-smokes".

Now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OqUmVZu_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwauhWdI3fY

(with regional music)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9UNqizuhoE

1984:
(https://bcsopot.com.pl/motocykle/1984/03_.jpg)
https://bcsopot.com.pl/motocykle/1984/index.php (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbcsopot.com.pl%2Fmotocykle%2F1984%2Findex.php)

1987:
(https://bcsopot.com.pl/motocykle/1987/012-19.jpg)
Bieszczady and Beskid mountains (https://bcsopot.com.pl/motocykle/1987/index.php)

2016:
(https://bcsopot.com.pl/motocykle/201607BY/images/DSC_0326.jpg)

Road to Bieszczady and more ... (https://bcsopot.com.pl/motocykle/201607BY/index.html)

2004 - by walking:
(https://bcsopot.com.pl/motocykle/perpedes/bieszczady2004/image/image2.jpg)
perpedes/bieszczady (https://bcsopot.com.pl/motocykle/perpedes/bieszczady2004/index.html)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on August 12, 2019, 01:03:08

''Good news. Should it be Bieszczady? You have too many C in your keyboard  ;D''


Jyrays, Try to pronounce it.   :P ;D
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: the prodded dog on August 12, 2019, 22:49:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-bg3VnMWg
This looks fun. FF to 2:15

TPD
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Antoine on August 16, 2019, 00:21:46
Looks very nice. Hope to see you all then.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: BjørnHagesæter on August 16, 2019, 14:09:10
Im readdy for it. My wife want to com with me this time  ;)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on August 17, 2019, 21:42:13
Im readdy for it. My wife want to com with me this time  ;)

 VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Two Plugs on August 21, 2019, 09:29:55

''Good news. Should it be Bieszczady? You have too many C in your keyboard  ;D''


Jyrays, Try to pronounce it.   :P ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jyrays on August 21, 2019, 15:28:26
I'm not slavik language speaker so I might sound weird but I will try 🙃
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on August 21, 2019, 18:39:15

Maybe this will be useful for practicing: "W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie"

 ;D :D
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: bogdanbc on August 21, 2019, 22:44:15
:)

Oryginal:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfKZclMWS1U


Transcryption:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-fcrn1Edik

Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: SB on August 22, 2019, 00:44:04

(https://i.postimg.cc/McgZwmb7/th.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McgZwmb7)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Two Plugs on August 22, 2019, 09:32:30
Guys.... This is a serious matter!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jyrays on September 03, 2019, 16:43:27
I think big bottle of old good Polish "remover" Vodka would do it better :D
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: bogdanbc on September 20, 2019, 17:19:23
Im readdy for it. My wife want to com with me this time  ;)

If a man from Norway will lost his road back - there are helpfull marks:

(https://bcsopot.com.pl/motocykle/201607BY/images/DSC_0349.jpg)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jack Sawdayee on October 10, 2019, 11:13:17
My Logo suggestion

(https://i.postimg.cc/34bF5MSS/LOGO-VIM22-A-10-10-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34bF5MSS)


<edited to use the Add Image to post menu instead of attaching files  ;) >
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on October 10, 2019, 11:25:14
Jack,
No kangaroos in Bieszczady  :D
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on October 10, 2019, 11:42:35
My Logo suggestion

Is there any logo competition opened ?  har_scratch  ;D
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on October 10, 2019, 12:14:41
Hold your horses - the next VIM logo will be a surprise  8)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jack Sawdayee on October 10, 2019, 12:20:09
Jack,
No kangaroos in Bieszczady  :D
K68 are you sure
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on October 10, 2019, 12:43:55
Jack,
Absolutely, there are wolves, bears, hares, bisons, deers, ants, grasshoppers - but no kangaroos  ;D
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on October 11, 2019, 18:45:36
<Admin mode on > please remenber to use the Add Image to post menu just under the reply box, as explained here (https://honda-adventure-riders.com/index.php?topic=1899) . Thx VCIF_salut <Admin mode off>  ;)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: texas on October 26, 2019, 17:52:20
I can't find the booking url...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on October 26, 2019, 18:45:33
I can't find the booking url...

Surely not yet opened  ;)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: texas on October 28, 2019, 14:26:15
Ah, okay.... So I will be patient and wait for it.....
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on October 28, 2019, 14:32:01
Ah, okay.... So I will be patient and wait for it.....

Sure an "official" announcement will be done  ;D  VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: meine dicke on November 18, 2019, 22:20:59
Anyone, except me, having booked at Hotel Solina Resort & Spa ?

Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Snurrepus on November 18, 2019, 22:41:34
Anyone, except me, having booked at Hotel Solina Resort & Spa ?

Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke

AnneGro and I have booked a twin room at Solina.
But we think we will have our breakfast together with the group  ;)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Roblew1985 on November 23, 2019, 20:09:49
please make a reservation for my pure person Robert Lewandowski!
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on November 23, 2019, 20:27:26
Sure you will do in time by yourself  VCIF_ThumbUp
Do not hesitate to make a presentation of you and your bike in the right thread (https://honda-adventure-riders.com/index.php?board=6.0)  VCIF_ok
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on November 23, 2019, 22:21:25
Robert, we plan to start registration in the middle of January, check the forum
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Gregory on November 25, 2019, 23:07:04
 Looks very nice, hoping to see you this time with my  Pan european!!!!! Six months away!!
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on November 25, 2019, 23:12:33
Looks very nice, hoping to see you this time with my  Pan european!!!!! Six months away!!

Super, I hope so.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on November 25, 2019, 23:48:05
Looks very nice, hoping to see you this time with my  Pan european!!!!! Six months away!!

Hello Grégory  VCIF_salut please a presentation in the right  thread (https://honda-adventure-riders.com/index.php?board=6.0) will be pleasant, to know you a little bit more before we meet  VCIF_ok
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Gregory on November 28, 2019, 13:10:14
Looks very nice, hoping to see you this time with my  Pan european!!!!! Six months away!!

Hello Grégory  VCIF_salut please a presentation in the right  thread (https://honda-adventure-riders.com/index.php?board=6.0) will be pleasant, to know you a little bit more before we meet  VCIF_ok

Ok my friend!!
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: mitterk on December 19, 2019, 17:57:42
Now I also have a reservation for the Hotel Solina from Thursday to Monday, see you there :)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on December 19, 2019, 19:26:39
Now I also have a reservation for the Hotel Solina from Thursday to Monday, see you there :)

Hello,
Nice to meet you in few month in Poland , happy if you can make a small presentation of you and your bike in the Just joined? Introduce yourself and say hi! thread (https://honda-adventure-riders.com/index.php?board=6.0)
 VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Two Plugs on January 13, 2020, 14:29:56
Robert, we plan to start registration in the middle of January, check the forum

Almost the middle of January, any updates, Kris?  ;D VCIF_ThumbUp

Regarding breakfast… as you have learned, the Solina hotel booking includes breakfast. But like Erik and Anne-Gro I prefer to have breakfast with the group, don't care about my extra expensives (but I don't wan't to make that decision for other hotel guests!)

Most likely I'll skip the group breakfast on monday morning and use the hotel buffet to have an early start to my next stop.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: bogdanbc on January 13, 2020, 15:05:42
Wait 2 days :)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on January 13, 2020, 23:16:25
Yes, I know, mid-January is coming.
Unfortunately, I could not recently support Bogdan sufficiently, because of my duties at work.

We already discussed and actually agreed the way:
1. how to book accommodation,
2. how to book VIM participation,
3. how to make payments
4. how to notify participants about the reservation,
5. how to confirm of payment .
Now is my job to describe on forum all this issue.

I saw the the project of VIM22 T-shirt - in my opinion it's great.  ;)
K
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: meine dicke on January 13, 2020, 23:53:54
If payment (VIM-fee and acco) is possible with paypal it will be easier and less expensiv to the participants.
If they send the money as "friend" the receiver will have to pay no fee and the sender will have to pay only the money for VIM-fee and/or acco.

But if the payment is done from bank to bank there will be an extra fee to be payed from the sender to his bank, as we had to pay for the Swedish VIM.

So if it is possible to do the payment with paypal, the sender will have a benefit and the receiver will receive the money immediately.

The receiver only need an account at paypal and the sender needs to know where to transfer the money - he needs the Email-adress from the receiver.


Perhaps you can think about.


Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on January 14, 2020, 00:27:32
ok, I'll ask the organizer about it, for now I have a bank account number from him only.  VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: meine dicke on January 14, 2020, 11:54:59
ok, I'll ask the organizer about it, for now I have a bank account number from him only.  VCIF_ThumbUp

Thank you,

but I have to edit my post before.

If the receiver has a EURO-account at his bank, then you can do a SEPA-transfer, which will have the costs (from bank to bank) as in your homeland.

Quote by: https://www.das-polen-magazin.de/hohe-kosten-auslandsueberweisungen-polen/

"Basically, it can be said that a transfer in Zloty to Poland is carried out, there are sometimes high fees for international transfers. However, if the recipient of the money has a Euro account, the money transfer can also be carried out free of charge by SEPA transfer."

Sorry about the late complement  ::)

Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on January 14, 2020, 12:30:35
PayPal transfers are not totally free depending on which country they come , for exemple Israel or Russia but it can be compensated ...  ;)

We had perfect payment process these last years ...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on January 21, 2020, 01:08:02

We start registration on Friday, 24th of January   VCIF_salut


Bogdanbc will change the VIM reservation topic title - and than reservation will be open !
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: BjørnHagesæter on January 21, 2020, 08:46:29
👍👍👍
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Mario on February 01, 2020, 22:52:18
Ready to go 🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on February 01, 2020, 23:02:07
Ready to go 🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️

so don't waste your time ...    VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 02, 2020, 08:30:20
Ready to go 🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️

Hello Mario . A presentation in the right  thread (https://honda-adventure-riders.com/index.php?board=6.0) would be appreciated  VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on April 18, 2020, 16:56:13
Dear VIM-22 Participants,

As you surely know, preparations for VIM in Bieszczady, Poland have already begun. Unfortunately this year we were surprised by unexpected circumstances on an unprecedented scale, that we couldn't predict.
You decided that is no sense to wait any longer and the procedure for voting on the future of VIM-22 should be launch.
The will of majority voters was to postpone event to May next year (VIM is spring thing).
We as a VIM-22 Org Team are following your decision, so we informed the organizer in Myczkowianka about willingness to change the date of the event.
He accepted our request.
Taking the above into consideration and based on your will expressed in organized voting, we (as a VIM-22 Org Team) would like to officially inform you that the VIM -22 will take place in Myczkowianka, Poland May 21st - 24th 2021.

+ The money you have been paid will remain on organizer's account from Myczkowianka.
+ We assume that the VIM-22 program will not change.
+ The cost of event for those who paid remain unchanged.
+ All reserved accommodation at Myczkowianka will be valid.
+ Since VIM-22 has not been canceled, there is no refund.


Please find below list of guaranteed VIM-22 participants:

1    K68                         PL       + accommodation
2    Trinity                      PL       + accommodation
3    Bjørn Hagesæter     N        + accommodation
4    April                         N        + accommodation
5    meine dicke             D
6    Snurrepus               N        + accommodation
7    Anne-Gro                 N        + accommodation
8    Texas                       D
9    Two Plugs                NL
10    Jyrays                    FI       + accommodation
11    Ursula                    SLO   + accommodation
12    Jack Sawdayee       IL     + accommodation
13    Nysse                     SE     + accommodation
14    Big Dave                 UK
15    Wifey                      UK
16    biker76                    F       + accommodation
17    Ołle Lindell (oll)       SE
18    Bønne                     DK      + accommodation
19    sebastian_j             PL      + accommodation
20    Mars                        NL
21    Barkas                    RUS     + accommodation
22    Anna                       RUS     + accommodation
23    the prodded dog     UK
24    SB                           SCT
25    Falcon58                  PL
26    Alicja                        PL
27    Zebulon                    F       + accommodation
28    Michelle                     F       + accommodation
29    ubertourer               UK
30    mitterk (Kurt)            AT
31    agreekintheworld     GR      + accommodation
32    SWING                     CH       + accommodation
33    Waver                      UA       + accommodation
34    Kamchatka               UA       + accommodation
35    Nataliia                     UA       + accommodation
36    Tarwdu                     CYM
37    Exvara                        F
38    Odile                           F
39    Geosidecar                 D       + accommodation
40    Boguslaw                   PL      + accommodation
41    Grażyna                     PL      + accommodation
42    Kela                           UA      + accommodation
43    Julija                          UA      + accommodation
44    Bruvex                         B      + accommodation
45    Tosiek                         PL      + accommodation
46    bogdanbc                   PL      + accommodation
47    Paolo                          I        + accommodation

VIM-22 Org Team
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on April 18, 2020, 18:55:23
Do not know what we can do next year
Covid crisis have put us in financial difficulties;
So I ask for a refund of both our reservations Michelle + Gilles
Wait & see what we can do next year, and pay again if (as we hope) we'll are able to come to next VIM.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on April 18, 2020, 21:09:28
I agree with you Gilles, we all injured by current situation, but our decision was to postponed VIM22.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: ubertourer on June 04, 2020, 17:43:46
i have booked my accomodation again ready for next year, but could not get a room back in the hotel solina, got a room in another place a bit further up the road, so a slightly longer walk for me to the meeting place for the evening meals, never mind.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: ubertourer on September 30, 2020, 20:30:44
now rebooking my ferry for next year, and hope it doesnt go tits up again.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on September 30, 2020, 20:54:25
fortunately we have not postponed the meeting for this September; sure a lot of participants cannot be there . hope everything will be ok next May, and you are all ok !  VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: texas on October 01, 2020, 22:02:22
I really hope so too. But in increasing numbers of infections make me fear...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: ubertourer on October 03, 2020, 22:07:59
well, to rebook my ferry to holland cost me an extra 54GBP, so depending on what countries let me travel next year(as long as im allowed off the ferry at the hoek that is) i will have a holiday riding round somewhere, even if its not to the VIM at least.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Two Plugs on October 05, 2020, 12:45:59
i have booked my accomodation again ready for next year, but could not get a room back in the hotel solina, got a room in another place a bit further up the road, so a slightly longer walk for me to the meeting place for the evening meals, never mind.

I'm not going to book anything yet, knowing that there is a risk to miss booking opportunities in Solina. I keep in mind the possibility that COVID19 isn't solved by spring '21 so it really will be a last minute decision to go, or not to go. Even if this could result in not participating for the first time in 22 years...  :-\

If that would be the case, I kindly offer my participation fee to the orgateam as sponsoring.
Gonna draw the final straw around February / March 2021.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on October 11, 2020, 19:57:41
Hi guys,
Rooms at the Solina Hotel will be available. Arrangements with the hotel are ongoing.

Bernard, for each participant VIM-22, which is already on the list of participants will be a place, it doesn't matter when you decide to come.

Cheers, see you next may.
Kris
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Two Plugs on January 02, 2021, 17:13:54
Tnx Kris, your efforts are really appreciated. Keep our group posted as well.

I made up my mind however... without being vaccinated, I will not travel to Poland (or any foreign journeys).
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: ubertourer on January 04, 2021, 21:32:08
Hi guys,
Rooms at the Solina Hotel will be available. Arrangements with the hotel are ongoing.

Bernard, for each participant VIM-22, which is already on the list of participants will be a place, it doesn't matter when you decide to come.

Cheers, see you next may.
Kris
if i wanted a room again, do i have to book it via yourself, as just checked the hotel on booking .com and no rooms available.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: meine dicke on January 26, 2021, 17:17:08
Information for you all what is going on  in Germany because of CORONA concearning the national Varadero meeting, if somebody is planing VDT before VIM.

The German Varadero Meeting (VDT 2021) will be hold, if  CORONA will allow, before VIM 2021.

Meanwhile the German Orga-Team send an information that they will look forward and hope that it will take place,

but it is possible to cancel the participation without paying anything till 30.04.2021 and all who want to cancel (because of CORONA) or have the money stay in since 2020 will get their money back.


Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke

PS: I hope we´ll get vaccinated right before the meeting and get so the chance to meet in 2021
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on January 26, 2021, 18:11:44
but it is possible to cancel the participation without paying anything till 30.04.2021 and all who want to cancel (because of CORONA) or have the money stay in since 2020 will get their money back.

 VCIF_ThumbUp better then here ...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: geosidecar on January 27, 2021, 11:59:16
WAY better then here !!!
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on January 30, 2021, 18:19:19
Thx
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: the prodded dog on February 17, 2021, 11:53:12
My own feeling is that VIM this year will not be allowed due to travel restrictions between countries for pleasure.
Whilst I sincerely hope it does go ahead I think we need to consider plan B.
Can the VIM be postponed for another year??

The Prodded Dog
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jyrays on February 17, 2021, 13:02:26
I'm also sure we won't have VIM this spring either  :(

Vaccinations will help, but not soon enough. I haven't been at home (one of them) since a year now and another one since 6 months  ::)

Who knows when we will travel again :(
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jack Sawdayee on February 17, 2021, 14:39:03
I am ten days after my second vaccination, I suggest for you to move to a country that cares for the health of its citizens. My last year plane reservation is resceduled for VIM22 May 2021, I understand that my VIM participation is payed for. So Whatever the conditions I am planning to atted VIM May 2021 this year in the south of POLAND even if I am the only participant.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 17, 2021, 15:21:16
I am ten days after my second vaccination, ...

Sorry Jack, you're surely a little bit older then us  ;D that can also explain that ...  VCIF_ok
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: ubertourer on February 17, 2021, 18:44:22
My own feeling is that VIM this year will not be allowed due to travel restrictions between countries for pleasure.
Whilst I sincerely hope it does go ahead I think we need to consider plan B.
Can the VIM be postponed for another year??

The Prodded Dog
i have my space up for sale, but if admin, organisers or whoever is sorting it out, think they may have to postpone for another year, then i will hang on to it. but im certainly not travelling through several countries to go to the vim this year as i dont think its a very wise idea..
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: SB on February 17, 2021, 20:15:00
My last year plane reservation is resceduled for VIM22 May 2021, I understand that my VIM participation is payed for. So Whatever the conditions I am planning to atted VIM May 2021 this year in the south of POLAND even if I am the only participant.

Where are you flying to Jack ?
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 17, 2021, 20:37:54
My last year plane reservation is resceduled for VIM22 May 2021, I understand that my VIM participation is payed for. So Whatever the conditions I am planning to atted VIM May 2021 this year in the south of POLAND even if I am the only participant.

Where are you flying to Jack ?

Offently to Greece, where he brings his bike, then ferry to Venice...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 17, 2021, 22:17:45
It seems that Poland ask for a vaccination passport to enter, unfortunately only 1,2% of Europeans are now vaccinated , I do not think we will be end of May ...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jack Sawdayee on February 18, 2021, 07:27:19
Gilles is right, I Travel by plane to Greece there I get my bike from the ship from Israel. And from there to Venice by ferry. Please everyone arrange for yourself a Vaccination Certificate like the one enclosed (b,b,s) "buy, borow or steal".  Do not postpone VIM for another year, I am not sure I can wait that much.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 18, 2021, 09:27:13
One chance is a (few) vaccine (s) have been developed quickly; BUT it is not available for instance for everybody ...  No vaccination = no passport or vaccination certificate, Jack  ;)
So wait & see, but as much people here and elsewhere, I do not think we can be vaccinated for this spring, which means that we will not be able to travel worldwide for this next spring ...  :-\
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Bruvex on February 18, 2021, 20:49:23
So wait & see, but as much people here and elsewhere, I do not think we can be vaccinated for this spring, which means that we will not be able to travel worldwide for this next spring ...  :-\

Same thoughts here.
A lot of categories are still in front of me.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: MrKiwi on February 19, 2021, 04:13:54
same here too, I am stuck in NZ for another year...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: meine dicke on February 19, 2021, 11:08:04
Now I think it´s time for the Orga to give some information about their planings.

And please don´t do the same thing as last year  VCIF_ok, it´s time for action and open information for everyone.

My opinion and perhaps you may have a look at the ORGA of the German Varadero Meeting (VDT) which is forward offensive.

Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke

PS: Still hoping to join a VIM in 2021, but not very confident
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 19, 2021, 21:35:18
... So Whatever the conditions I am planning to atted VIM May 2021 this year in the south of POLAND even if I am the only participant.

Seems you need an imperious pattern to leave or enter in Israel ... (with a long quarantine monitored in army hotels  :( )
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Djairouks on February 20, 2021, 12:24:25
I'm changing company for a much better job in one week, unfortunately since it's for watchmaking,
they have what is called "Horology holidays" meaning the company closes in July the full month and
you are forced to be on vacation during this time.

So I only have 13th to 16th may, ascension, available for travel.

Not so nice, but small price to pay for a huge advancement of my career !
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 20, 2021, 21:08:38
So I only have 13th to 16th may, ascension, available for travel.

Not so nice, but small price to pay for a huge advancement of my career !

unfortunately meeting is Pentecost/Whitsun  week end; and perhaps a little bit short to go and come back to Poland (and stay with us during meeting  ;D )
Happy you have advancement , next time you change your job, you 'll be free on Pentecost  ;D
 VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: SB on February 20, 2021, 22:05:53
I'm changing company for a much better job in one week,

Anywhere near Schaffhausen ?
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: ubertourer on February 21, 2021, 12:44:40
Now I think it´s time for the Orga to give some information about their planings.

And please don´t do the same thing as last year  VCIF_ok, it´s time for action and open information for everyone.

My opinion and perhaps you may have a look at the ORGA of the German Varadero Meeting (VDT) which is forward offensive.

Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke i agree, clarity is needed as time is marching on.


PS: Still hoping to join a VIM in 2021, but not very confident
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Djairouks on February 21, 2021, 21:00:15
I'm changing company for a much better job in one week,

Anywhere near Schaffhausen ?

Oh no, in the heart of the watch region, La Chaux-de-Fonds just 15 minutes from my home !
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 21, 2021, 21:34:29
Oh no, in the heart of the watch region, La Chaux-de-Fonds just 15 minutes from my home !

like the name; but not so much the town; but riding around in Jura suisse , is a must !  VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Djairouks on February 22, 2021, 21:09:41
Oh no, in the heart of the watch region, La Chaux-de-Fonds just 15 minutes from my home !

like the name; but not so much the town; but riding around in Jura suisse , is a must !  VCIF_ThumbUp

It's fine for work, I prefer living in Neuchâtel by the lake honestly !
If you want my favorite ride in Jura I can make some circuits  VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 22, 2021, 21:17:09
perhaps already done, but always nice to have locals' tracks  VCIF_ThumbUp and not sure i will be allowed  to ride there before a while...

<but sure we are absolutely off topic>  ;)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on February 22, 2021, 21:20:53
Allo  VCIF_a140mail hello orga team ? some members/participants are waiting for some information/news ...  VCIF_ok
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Snurrepus on February 23, 2021, 13:52:28
Anne-Gro and I still hope for a meeting this year  VCIF_ThumbUp
Of course that depends if we're allowed to ride through Sweden, and if we're allowed to enter Poland.
Ferry from Sweden to Poland is booked, but can be cancelled without any fees
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on February 28, 2021, 22:04:45
Allo  VCIF_a140mail hello orga team ? some members/participants are waiting for some information/news ...  VCIF_ok

Hi Gilles and all VIM 22 participants,

We assume that VIM22 will take place this year.
I have confirmation from the organizer / owner of Myczkowianka that preparations will start soon and that the program of the meeting remains unchanged.
I hope that the borders will be open and everyone will be able to get to Bieszczady.
I will try to provide more details soon.
I wish everyone to stay healthy.
Kris
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Bruvex on March 03, 2021, 12:26:54
Hi all you youngsters,

I don't know if I will participate if VIM22 is allowed.

First of all there's the covid situation. I'm not eager to travel trough several countries when I'm not yet vaccinated, and that will be the case.

Secondly, I've crashed the AT last Wednesday and I've broken 5 ribs and had some blood and fluid around my longs.
It's still early to say but the doctors who treated me (both bikers themselves (BMuu and KTM)) think it still can be difficult to travel long distances and tenting overnight is surely not a good idea.
The AT seems to be OK - slide marks on the protection bars and on the handprotection - according my dealer but I didn't see it yet.

There's still some time to the end of May but I think with these situations it will be difficult to participate.

Many greetings,
Bruvex
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on March 03, 2021, 12:55:09
wish you a good and fast recovery Bruno  ;)  VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: meine dicke on March 03, 2021, 18:35:05
As well from me, my best wishes for a quick and full recovery.

Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: SB on March 04, 2021, 00:19:43

Get well soon Bruno  VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: bogdanbc on March 04, 2021, 09:13:37
Good thing you're not a footballer, Bruno - after "a foul" like that, you wouldn't get off the pitch for two years   ;)
And remember - enduro does not cry!  VCIF_ThumbUp
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on March 04, 2021, 13:07:17
I join in wishing you a speedy recovery.
And I hope to see you in May in Bieszczady.
Best,
Kris
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jack Sawdayee on March 05, 2021, 08:21:46
Get well Bruno and hope we discuss it in May in Bieszczady!
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Bruvex on March 05, 2021, 10:43:13
Thanks for the 'get well soon' wishes.

Hope to meet you all again this or next year.

Stay safe and healthy my friends!

Greetings,
Bruvex
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Antoine on March 07, 2021, 20:56:34
Get well Bruno
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: MrKiwi on March 08, 2021, 04:48:03
5 broken ribs, ouch.
Get well soon...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jyrays on March 12, 2021, 11:51:54
Hi all you youngsters,

I don't know if I will participate if VIM22 is allowed.

First of all there's the covid situation. I'm not eager to travel trough several countries when I'm not yet vaccinated, and that will be the case.

Secondly, I've crashed the AT last Wednesday and I've broken 5 ribs and had some blood and fluid around my longs.
It's still early to say but the doctors who treated me (both bikers themselves (BMuu and KTM)) think it still can be difficult to travel long distances and tenting overnight is surely not a good idea.
The AT seems to be OK - slide marks on the protection bars and on the handprotection - according my dealer but I didn't see it yet.

There's still some time to the end of May but I think with these situations it will be difficult to participate.

Many greetings,
Bruvex

Get well soon! What happened?
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Bruvex on March 12, 2021, 20:21:50
Get well soon! What happened?

Hi Jyrays,

I crashed the bike on a small and winding road - often used by farmers - in the early morning hours. So visibility was not yet clear.
In a 90° turn my front wheel just slipped away and however it was at reasonably slow speed (40-50 km/h) I couldn't correct it anymore.
According to the doctors I just made a bad fall. It could have been worse but for all I know it could have been just bruises too.

When police and ambulance arrived they said the road felt 'greasy'.
So just bad luck.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on March 16, 2021, 20:28:47
Hello orga team, hello all participants; perhaps time to discuss and make choices for the future?
Orga team seems to think VIM can take place this next May...
listening to all "specialists" here or elsewhere it seems it will be difficult to ride thru Europe before this Autumn.
My opinion is we cannot hide our eyes and butcher our ears any more; who think it will be possible to held it in May?; who is ready to postpone it to September : if we wait and wait a lot of people will be stuck, if we decide not far from now a lot of persons can organize a trip for September (for exemple - but the choice of the orga team or a poll?)

it will be sure we cannot be vaccinated for May, and seeing the new problem with Aztra Zeneka in Europe , do not think a lot of people can travel; for those who can , who wants to ride thru  borders in that case?
For us our travel to VIM is Italy (very difficult situation for instance), Slovenia, Hungaria, Slovakia, VIM, (UKrania), Romania, Serbia, Slovenia, Italia.
A think to our Russian friends who have difficulties with EU visas for instance ... perhaps better a little bit later? thinking also of our wounded friends ;)
Is it possible for our host for our welcome in Poland, in September or what are the others possibilities ?...
Waiting for your thinking and advices, feel free to organize poll with choices etc...

A good society is a society where we speak; my opinion  VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: the prodded dog on March 16, 2021, 22:56:35
The situation in the UK is that at the moment no foreign travel until the 17th of May at the earliest.
However we would have to enter Holland and Germany to get to Poland. I have no idea if these countries will receive foreign visitors.
VIM has always been held in May (pentecost?) and so I don't see a postponement until September is feasible.
Better to postpone until 2022 to give plenty of time for things to settle down.
Only my thoughts but it is time to start sharing information on the situation and how it affects this years VIM.
The Prodded Dog
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: SB on March 16, 2021, 23:09:49
Most elderly and middle aged Brits will be vaccinated by May   ;)


The infection rates in Poland (and some other eastern european countries) are currently rising as fast as anywhere else in Europe https://covid19.who.int/table

I don't think many people would be able or be willing to travel through Europe in the next 3 months.

The problem with pushing it back to May next year is that we don't know what is going to happen over the 21/22 winter and what restrictions will be in place at this time next year.

(https://i.postimg.cc/yJqm653G/Screenshot-2021-03-16-200407.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJqm653G)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Snurrepus on March 17, 2021, 03:31:31
The last days the infection rates in Norway is rising very fast  :'(
The rates haven't been higher since the Covid arrived in Norway.
For first time all stores except food, medicine and alcohol ( ! ) are closed, and will not open the next month.
Most people over 85 are vaccinated, and that means that youngsters ;) like us have to wait several months.

It seems as the Swedish border will open within few days, but we still have to stay quarantined for at least 10 days when returning.
And - the Norwegian insurances don't cover journeys abroad.

Last year we discussed a VIM in September 2020, but we decided to wait for May 2021.
Sorry to say, but I believe that May 2022 has to be the (temporary) solution.

We don't know what is going to happen, but hopefully we're all vaccinated by then.

Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: meine dicke on March 17, 2021, 12:23:40
@ Snurrepus,

I agree  VCIF_ThumbUp.

But there should be as well the option to get refunded if somebody is not able or do not want to join in 2022.

Such a solution we have found for the German Varadero Meeting (VDT) in 2021/2022.


Greetings from the South of Germany
waiting for proposals from the ORGA-team

Rainer aka meine dicke
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Bruvex on March 17, 2021, 15:59:40
A think to our Russian friends who have difficulties with EU visas for instance ... perhaps better a little bit later? thinking also of our wounded friends ;)

Thanks Zebulon, you're the best  VCIF_ThumbUp.

For me it is clear I will not attend VIM if it is held in may this year.
3 reasons for this decision:

I personally am in favor of postponing VIM to next year may since the second part of the year is - as usual - not possible for me.

Greetings,
Bruno
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on March 17, 2021, 16:47:42
Thanks Zebulon, you're the best  VCIF_ThumbUp.

 VCIF_ok  ;)  VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on March 17, 2021, 23:08:36
Hello everyone,
The situation is indeed difficult to predict, I assumed that there will be a possibility to organize VIM in May this year.
However, I do not want to force anyone to decide to come.
If you decide not to organize VIM in May, I will of course respect this decision.
However, I have put a lot of effort and time into preparing the event twice and I am unlikely to take on the organization next year.
So it seems to me a good solution would be to find another person who can better handle the organization of VIM22.
Of course I will pass all contacts to the organizer in Myczkowce, with whom you will have to make arrangements and of course I will try to give as much support as I can.
I'm really sorry that things have developed in this way, I certainly would not undertake the organization if I suspected it.

Regards,
Kris

Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Bruvex on March 18, 2021, 11:58:14
Hi Kris,

We all know it is a very difficult situation and according to me you already did a hell of a job  VCIF_ThumbUp

Greetings,
Bruvex
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on March 18, 2021, 12:38:21
My Dear Ones,
I made one more attempt to agree on the postponement of VIM with the owner of Myczkowianka.
It's not easy, believe me.
 I agreed on a potential date to move the VIM22 to September between 17 and 19.
In my opinion, this is the last proposal I will be able to negotiate with him. September is a very attractive month in Bieszczady and there are many motorcycle events organized there.
What do you think, should I change the date from May to September, I need your decision.

best,
Kris
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on March 18, 2021, 13:12:40
If you decide not to organize VIM in May, I will of course respect this decision.

Do not understand ??? Who is organizing , YOU or "US" ? we just come to visit you ... Sure you understand decision is the authorities ,for the moment it is not recommended for us to go to Poland and we have 10 days of quarantine.

However, I have put a lot of effort and time into preparing the event twice and I am unlikely to take on the organization next year.
So it seems to me a good solution would be to find another person who can better handle the organization of VIM22.

everybody knows how hard it is to organize such an even; it is 22nd edition, and we knows how it's work and how hard it is; seems we have proposed you help in the beginning - refused
You've said the same thing one year earlier; you do not want to keep the organization, and you are still here, and everybody thanks you, and appeciate your effort for the community, hoping to discover (soon) your surroundings.

Of course I will pass all contacts to the organizer in Myczkowce, with whom you will have to make arrangements and of course I will try to give as much support as I can.

ambiguity, IMO, do not understand who's organizing: you or somebodyelse in Myczkowce

I'm really sorry that things have developed in this way, I certainly would not undertake the organization if I suspected it.

Regards,
Kris

There are imponderables, this pandemic is one, we must do with, protect us, and we will be happy to meet us "soon". We had incidents the previous years and we have always faced, so that we can meet in the best conditions. We appreciate your work and hope for a meeting as soon as possible.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on March 18, 2021, 13:15:36
Waiting for your last proposition agreement by all participants: for us if the situation will be better (what we are hopping) it surely can be possible to join in September; perhaps easier to make a poll, and see what are possibilities for others people...
thx again for the work  VCIF_salut  ;)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: K68 on March 18, 2021, 13:37:55
Gilles,
If the fact that I'm still here is a problem for you, I'll try to solve it quickly. I assume Bogdan can take over the organization from me.
And besides, if you're interested in shifting VIM to September, you need a rather quick decision. The owner of Myczkowianka will not keep reservations for two dates indefinitely.

Regards
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on March 18, 2021, 14:25:10
Absolutly not ! why do you think such a thing; as said your work is appreciated ! and sure we've said to you how hard it is .these are just constatation, every year when situation becomes difficult ... You've made nice job and waiting to discover your surroundings and meet again  ;)
I'm not personally interrested in nothing; I just try to keep this community alive, if you want quick decision, organize quickly a poll, and continue this discussion here: everybody can read it  VCIF_salut
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: ubertourer on March 18, 2021, 19:58:45
I say postpone for another year, too many variables. Imposed quarantine while travelling,  provide negative covid tests, covid passport etc. We all want to get back out in the big wide world, but we need to be realistic.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Chamster on April 20, 2021, 23:04:44
I'm confused... Where is the meeting 2021?! Is it in the same place as 2022 (Poland, in the South)? I simply don't follow. Too much fumes inhaled so brains going slowly...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on April 20, 2021, 23:34:42
the 2020 meeting have been postponed in 2021 and now in 2022; due to situation no meeting this year
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Chamster on April 21, 2021, 13:00:22
Thanks for the explanation.

I think I got confused by the naming and grammar at first.

Apparently "VIM22" was not "VIM in 2022". That's confusing as duck.    ;D

Also, "postponed to 2021" and "postponed in 2021" are two different things. I guess I'm not that smart and got stuck in the weird propositions of English language (I'm Swedish so it's not my mother lingo).

At any rate, Now I understand: no meeting during 2021, instead (possibly) next year, namely 2022. In my opinion, we should go for this year as the pandemic is about to ease down and will likely get better during the summer. But I guess this has been suggested and discussed until the ears were bleeding. A "no" is a "no" (that's what she said).
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on April 21, 2021, 13:54:18
VIM22 is VIM#22, first one was in 1999; you can find informations, history, logos, presentation's videos in this board (https://honda-adventure-riders.com/index.php?board=44.0)

most of us are non native English , so we try to understand each other  ;D  VCIF_a025 VCIF_44

VIM is a spring thing not a summer one, so we had a vote and most of participants vote to postpone to spring (pentecost) 2022; you're right no meeting during 2021. easier to find accommodation for a hundred persons in spring as in summer (at a nice price); less people on roads, and VIM have been held 21 times in spring ... ;)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on August 28, 2021, 16:29:24
Please all participants, and especially non-EU nationals, think for instance (but not too much chance it will be changed), you will have to be vaccined with one of the vaccine recognized by the European Medicines Agency (Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Janssen), to enter EU and perhaps each of the border inside Europe... make all chance to meet and take precautions to be able to meet.
hope to see everybody in 2022 in Biesczczady  VCIF_salut

Do not know how to have the EU digital covid certificate (for non EU residents), but think it will be the sesame for travelling  ;)
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Jyrays on August 28, 2021, 20:05:50
Done in May already...
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Snurrepus on August 29, 2021, 10:16:51
Please all participants, and especially non-EU nationals, think for instance (but not too much chance it will be changed), you will have to be vaccined with one of the vaccine recognized by the European Medicines Agency (Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Janssen), to enter EU and perhaps each of the border inside Europe... make all chance to meet and take precautions to be able to meet.
hope to see everybody in 2022 in Biesczczady  VCIF_salut

Do not know how to have the EU digital covid certificate (for non EU residents), but think it will be the sesame for travelling  ;)

Maybe trouble for the British...  :'(
Difficult to go in and out of UK these days.
Hopefully it will become easier  VCIF_ok
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: zebulon on August 29, 2021, 20:45:02
All non EU: British, Russians, Israeli , Ukrainians ... good to think about it beforehand
Erik you do not go to VUK finally ?
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: Snurrepus on August 31, 2021, 10:47:57
Erik you do not go to VUK finally ?

No, we don't go to UK this year.
Too difficult.
We needed two covid tests each for entering UK and two more covid tests when returning to EU.
And because UK is a "very high risk area" (dark red), we would have to stay quarantined 10 days in EU.
All this because of Brexit  >:(

We take a trip to Germany and Poland instead, and we'll have our bike serviced in Szczecin.
Title: Re: VIM22- (postponed to 2022) in Biesczczady, Poland!
Post by: ubertourer on September 22, 2021, 23:51:39
now booked an apartment close to the vim venue, so hopefully it will be easier to get there next june from the uk than it is now. so admin can close my topic of my space for sale as it looks like i will be seeing you guys and gals there.
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