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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2016, 21:34:54 »
Hi Zebulon,

Are you still satisfied with your tck's?
Did you use the standard innertube or a special one wich can cope with radial TL tyres?

Mounted ? so , we're waiting for your advice Bruno  VCIF_salut

Not mounted yet.
I'll try to do it this month an let you all know.
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« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2016, 21:56:51 »
My experience with the Mitas E07 at 5 000 km roads of the former Yugoslavia and Albania.

1. Grip of the tire on dry asphalt - 80-90% of that in Dunlop
2. The road stony, loose stones, mud and puddles - delicious
3. On wet asphalt - fatal grip, I feel less than 50% Dunlop
4. Sudden, sharp braking, I have the impression that the motorcycle "floats" (there was no inclusion ABS)
After 5000 km tread worn for 40-50% of the height.
Tires have not been punctured :-).



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« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2016, 23:36:48 »
Bogdan, when you say "Dunlop" it is about OEM trailmax?
You've changed Givi airflow ?
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« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2016, 23:54:55 »
Bogdan, when you say "Dunlop" it is about OEM trailmax?
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Yes, now for me is much better. If you want, I can sell You airflow for low price :)
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2016, 10:50:37 »
My experience with the Mitas E07 at 5 000 km roads of the former Yugoslavia and Albania.

1. Grip of the tire on dry asphalt - 80-90% of that in Dunlop
2. The road stony, loose stones, mud and puddles - delicious
3. On wet asphalt - fatal grip, I feel less than 50% Dunlop
4. Sudden, sharp braking, I have the impression that the motorcycle "floats" (there was no inclusion ABS)
After 5000 km tread worn for 40-50% of the height.
Tires have not been punctured :-).





3. I have not had  much rain so I do not know about that part.

4. I do not know if you have done knobbies before, it is normal feeling due to the higher pattern and bigger gap between blocks.

Wear depends on load and speed. The faster you go the more knobbies warm up and wear...
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #65 on: October 04, 2016, 11:07:52 »
4. I do not know if you have done knobbies before, it is normal feeling due to the higher pattern and bigger gap between blocks.
As I thought. In fact this tires are my first "knobbies" so in first shard braking I was a litte surprised.

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Thats true. I'm not Speedy Gonzales, solo, 96 kg :-)

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« Reply #66 on: October 04, 2016, 17:08:29 »
3. On wet asphalt - fatal grip, I feel less than 50% Dunlop

I understand you prefer OEM Dunlop on wet road ???  :o
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« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2016, 17:54:26 »
3. On wet asphalt - fatal grip, I feel less than 50% Dunlop

I understand you prefer OEM Dunlop on wet road ???  :o
Knobby tires are usually not so good on wet tarmac. I once almost went under a city bus in Istanbul after falling down with my XRR... a meter saved me!
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2016, 18:05:48 »
When we consider the "quality" of Trailmax on wet tarmac, it is worrying  VCIF_37_ohh
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2016, 21:07:40 »
Today my dealer mounted TKC70's.

I only drove about 50klms (in the wet) with the bike today but the tires seem quite OK.

First impression is that you have to give some more input for cornering but once you're in the turn the bike is as if on rails. The few klms in the wet felt more confident than with the stock Dunlops.

I'll give some more info on how they handle when I've rode some more klms.

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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #70 on: October 15, 2016, 22:01:45 »
Today riding on (soft wet) sand, seems it is perfect, much better than scorpion trail on CT and anakee on BMuu ... Front wheel a little bit fuzzy, but sure it is the thin 21" wheel.
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2016, 18:45:25 »
You will have to be careful with the continental TKC as they have a joint in them.  They are made like joining the ends of a piece of string to make a circle.
The main problem with this is that under extreme conditions the inner tube rubs on this join and causes failiure of the tube. For this reason enduro riders do not use tkc.
Using tkc in the wet can be interesting depending on the type of tarmac you are on. European tarmac is generally ok as it is mostly limestone chippins. Morrocan tarmac is made with crushed marble and is lethal in the wet. Maybe Istanbul is the same.
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2016, 20:39:29 »
You will have to be careful with the continental TKC as they have a joint in them.  They are made like joining the ends of a piece of string to make a circle.
The main problem with this is that under extreme conditions the inner tube rubs on this join and causes failiure of the tube.

The moment I think I'm doing extreme things the tyre will feel like it is doing some normal stuff  ;D
Thanks for the info anyway Tarwdu  VCIF_ThumbUp
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #73 on: October 17, 2016, 01:36:34 »
You will have to be careful with the continental TKC as they have a joint in them.  They are made like joining the ends of a piece of string to make a circle.
The main problem with this is that under extreme conditions the inner tube rubs on this join and causes failiure of the tube. For this reason enduro riders do not use tkc.
Using tkc in the wet can be interesting depending on the type of tarmac you are on. European tarmac is generally ok as it is mostly limestone chippins. Morrocan tarmac is made with crushed marble and is lethal in the wet. Maybe Istanbul is the same.


I've been following discussions on the TKC 70 tire on other forums and not a single person from what I can see has mentioned this issue.  The TKC 70 is getting good reviews from those who have fitted them across many different types of bikes.


I'd be interested to learn more about this though. Are there any links you know of that discuss this matter?


 
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Re: AT Tires
« Reply #74 on: October 17, 2016, 10:07:51 »

I've been following discussions on the TKC 70 tire on other forums and not a single person from what I can see has mentioned this issue.  The TKC 70 is getting good reviews from those who have fitted them across many different types of bikes.

I'd be interested to learn more about this though. Are there any links you know of that discuss this matter?

You've got the TKC70 under the Transalp...

Regarding to the crushed marble in the tarmac: same goes for Greece. It can (and will) make the tarmac extremely slippery. Due to the wearing down of the tarmac, a microscopic film of marble dust is layed down on the tarmac. I almost lost the Varadero in Greece, stopping at an junction: my foot just slipped away, I could just barely hold the bike. Tires which do well under Western European sircumstances, can therefore, become a nightmare in some Southern European countries.
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