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With regards to fuel range on the CRF100L - This is what I will be fitting to my AT. These tanks are being produced by Camel-ADV, not too far from me in Canada. I've been in touch with the owner. Cory said that the brackets for my Bumot Defender pannier system are being worked on right now.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/2s9kzywyv7b5js8/Camel-ADV-tank-kit-550w.png?raw=1)
Camel-ADV Fuel Tank Kit
The Camel Tank is installed on the rear left side of the bike, opposite side to the exhaust. Occupying otherwise useless space, it adds 6.5Litres/1.7 gallons of extra fuel to your capacity for a total of 25.5 litres. That's an additional 100-150 km of extra fun before you need to start looking for a fuel station!
(http://honda-adventure-riders.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1274.0;attach=1663;image)
Camel-ADV Fuel Tank fitted to a CRF1000L Africa Twin
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Camel-ADV Fuel Tank fitted to a CRF1000L Africa Twin
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/3dpx8nfuzr94fz4/Camel-ADV-Fuel-Tank.png?raw=1)
Camel-ADV Fuel Tank fitted to a CRF1000L Africa Twin
For those not familiar with the concept. It feeds directly into the main tank whilst the engine is running. Once it's empty the main fuel tank begins to be consumed. You will see a 'full' reading on the fuel gauge until the camel tank is empty and the fuel in the main tanks starts to be used.
So, basically you use 6.5L/1.7Gal of fuel from the Camel Tank before you even start to eat into your main fuel tank :)
Note: Does not fit when OEM panniers are installed!
You can find it online here: Camel Tank for the Honda Africa Twin (https://camel-adv.com/collections/honda/products/honda-africa-twin-crf1000l-ct-atr)
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David Crawford / MrKiwi, exactly what you are looking for!
James,
Which pannier system is on the displayed bike? Also the Bumot? Is there a possibility that it can be modified to fit with the OEM panniers?
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Yes it is... VCIF_ThumbUp
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David Crawford / MrKiwi, exactly what you are looking for!
James,
Which pannier system is on the displayed bike? Also the Bumot? Is there a possibility that it can be modified to fit with the OEM panniers?
Hi Bernard,
I'm using the Bumot Defender Pannier system. I have been in contact with the owner of Camel-ADV. The brackets are being developed now so that the install will work with my pannier frames. Once he says they are ready I will post here also with an update. The thing is I am away until early August so won't actually see them before then as the earliest.
regards
James Mc
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"Fits With These Pannier Systems:
Touratech Zega (Zega Pro, Mundo, etc)
SW Motech
ADV-Tech
BUMOT Defender (Coming Soon!)
GIVI PL1144CAM (Coming Soon!)
Holan Pro (requires our rear mounting tube)
Holan symmetrical (coming soon)
Happy Trail (minor bracket clearancing required)
Does Not Fit With These Pannier Systems:
GIVI PLR1144 Quick Release
Hepco Becker
Metal Mule
Barrett
Honda factory panniers
TUSK"
VCIF_salut
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David Crawford / MrKiwi, exactly what you are looking for!
James,
Which pannier system is on the displayed bike? Also the Bumot? Is there a possibility that it can be modified to fit with the OEM panniers?
I think the OEM pannier on the left fits too close to the bike to allow the Camel-ADV tank to squeeze in there. The only think I could imagine is to fit a pannier frame and adapt the OEM panniers to fit the new frame? The Honda panniers are reasonably square (externally) and similar in appearance to Aluminium panniers made by other companies so they might look OK.... or not! Who knows.
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My post is deleted?
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My post is deleted?
you have not posted here ... VCIF_9553um
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This will work with my bike as I have the Givi trekker outback panniers fitted to it and the brackets are the PL____Cam type. 25L fuel capacity is perfect for this bike.
I will await with interest to see when the brackets for the Givi pannier rack is available.
Cheers from downunder...
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"Fits With These Pannier Systems:
GIVI PL1144CAM (Coming Soon!)
I will await with interest to see when the brackets for the Givi pannier rack is available.
Cheers from downunder...
coming soon VCIF_salut
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This will work with my bike as I have the Givi trekker outback panniers fitted to it and the brackets are the PL____Cam type. 25L fuel capacity is perfect for this bike.
I will await with interest to see when the brackets for the Givi pannier rack is available.
Cheers from downunder...
You can email Cory at Camel-ADV (https://camel-adv.com) and ask: info@cameltank.com
He's a one man business, but tends to respond to email pretty quickly. If you don't mind, maybe mention James McLauchlan from East Sooke, Vancouver Island, recommended Camel-ADV in the Honda Adventure Riders Forum. It's always nice for a small business owner to know where their products are being talked about. FYI. I have no affiliation nor any deals going with Cory, other than I'm waiting for the bracket for my Bumot Defender Pannier frame to be made. :)
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My post is deleted?
Not by me!
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Reply from Camel
Hey David,
The GIVI brackets should be ready in about a month.
Regards,
Cory Hanson
Camel ADV Products Ltd
CAMEL-ADV.com (http://CAMEL-ADV.com)
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Thanks for the update (http://www.honda-adventure-riders.com/Themes/default/images/post/thumbup.gif)
Just sent Cory another email asking about the setup for the Bumot Defender Pannier System. I'll post the response also.
[Edit: Added some more images to the original post at the top of this thread]
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My post is deleted?
you have not posted here ... VCIF_9553um
Maybe by this new filter SB mentioned?
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My post is deleted?
Not by me!
I was saying you can do it yourself without spending all that money. Find a correct size spare reservoir and make a bracket for it... I saw somewhere in the forums a homemade solution.
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Well yes you can and if I wanted it just for a couple of trips that would work well. And if I ride only one up this would work too.
But I need it for distance touring two up. I won't have room other than inside the left pannier bracket. Hence my interest in the Camel product. The placement of the fuel down low helps as well. My view is I can probably afford the Camel solution so that is what I am likely to opt for. For my general riding I find stopping every 300 kms a hassle. A personal preference thing.
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From: Camel ADV Products <info@cameltank.com>
Subject: Re: Camel-ADV Fuel Tank
Date: 14 July 2017 at 02:19:25 GMT-2:30
To: James McLauchlan
Hey James,
BUMOT should have the brackets ready next week. Lots if interest in the tanks from the Bumot crowd.
Cory Hanson
Camel ADV Products
CAMEL-ADV.com
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This is the Camel-ADV tanks as fitted to the Bumot Defender pannier frame. Took a bit of jiggling to get it installed the way I wanted, but I will say the supplied kit is very well made and the tank has installed solidly. The tank is a tight fit to the rear Bumot pannier cross bar so I will add some spacers in there to give some extra clearance. I also needed to grind away some material from the supplied stainless steel mounting bracket, that secures the tank to the bike via clamps, so that the breather hose could pass through correctly. It was no biggie.
Overall this is a well made solid product. My average fuel consumption is 5.1L/100km right now. Although I will add that I've been taking it easy on the bike until the first service is done.
So based on my current average fuel consumption it means with the 18.8L main tank and the 6.5L Camel tanks the range (before running out completely) is pretty much 500km. Thats pretty respectable!
Note: You will need to remove both sides of front fairing and raise the tank to gain access underneath. So when you do an install try to do so with an almost empty tank to make it a little easier to lift up and support.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/zreki8j2xvcrvgp/Camel-Tank%20Whats%20in%20the%20box.jpg?raw=1)
What comes in the box - Note: you don't use everything.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/syz19bngvxn17ia/AT%20with%20Camel-ADV%20Tank%20001.jpg?raw=1)
Side view with Bumot Defender Pannier Frame
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/x0dhj5xkw00hy3p/AT%20with%20Camel-ADV%20Tank%20002.jpg?raw=1)
Rear view with Bumot Defender Pannier Frame - Note: That is the tethered Aluminium cap (Option)
Also I still need to cut a small section off the end of the chain guard, as per the instructions. You'll see why this is needed once the tank is installed.
I'll add some more images later with Panniers fitted.
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Thanks, helpful images.
How does this tank connect to the main tank or does in not? In the blurb on their website it says this tank empties first then the main tank. How is this managed?
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Thanks, helpful images.
How does this tank connect to the main tank or does in not? In the blurb on their website it says this tank empties first then the main tank. How is this managed?
It is connected to the main tank and does empty first as their blurb says.
On installation the original Honda breather tube is disconnected from the underside of the main tank (once you remove the fairing and lift the tank up to gain access). There is a pretty good You-Tube video of Cory's website that covers pretty much everything installation wise.
The fuel feed line from the bottom of the Camel tank is extended and connected to the metal breather fitting on the underside of the Honda tank.
The Camel Tank breather (at the top of the tank) is extended to exit where all the other breather tubes exit low down on the left of the bike.
Incidentally the Camel tank breather has a gravity type 'roll over' valve fitted, so if the tank is full and the bike tips over the valve will shut and prevent fuel draining out via the Camel tank breather tube.
When the engine is drawing fuel it still draws it from the original factory fitted fuel feed line.
As the level tries to drop in the OEM tank a partial vacuum tries to form, but as the breather is connected to the fuel feed line from the Camel tank, the main tank draws fuel into itself by the original breather fitting thus equalising the pressure and topping up the main tank.
The Camel tank is permanently connected to the main tank. Therefor it is the first tank to be emptied. During the time the 6.5L Camel tank is bing used you see full on the bikes fuel gauge at all times. As soon as you see the fuel gauge drop, just one bar from full, you know that the Camel Tank fuel has been used up and the main tank is now drawing air through it as it depletes its own fuel level toward empty. The OEM fuel gauge always gives a trues reading of the fuel in the main tank.
The only way you have of gauging how much fuel remains in the Camel Tank is to open its cap and look in.
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Published by Camel-ADV on You-Tube (40 min video).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aytg0bhx0e4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aytg0bhx0e4)
Published on 21 Jun 2017
A video installation guide for our Camel Tank ATR auxiliary fuel tank on the Honda Africa Twin.
The ATR Camel Tank add s 6.5L (1.7gal) to the CRF1000L's fuel capacity for piece of mind when you're exploring the backcountry, on an around the world trip or just blasting down the highway. The ATR is compatible with many popular hard pannier systems!
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The install looks a little more complicated than it is in reality. The hardest part was stripping the front faring off and raising the tank. Its all explained in the video.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ijbevnntw1thi47/Camel-ADV-Tank-fuel%20supply-tube-fitted-to-breather-under-OEM-tank-550w.jpg?raw=1)
Camel-ADV-Tank-fuel supply-tube-fitted-to-breather-under-OEM-tank (see bright metal hose clip supplied with kit)
Tip: When you have removed the front fairing add a little silicone to the fairing mounting rubbers. Helps them go on and come off more easily in the future.
Also, when removing the small plastic button type clips, push the centre pin in about 5mm until it naturally stops. Don't push the pin in too far or it will either pop out completely and be lost inside the front of the bike, or if it is pushed in too far, but doesn't pop out the back, it still won't allow you to pull the button/clip out.
Ask me how I know all this! ;)
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(https://www.dropbox.com/s/6z71ox1s06405gf/Camel-Tank-Bumot-Panniers-001-550w.jpg?raw=1)
6.5L Camel-ADV-Tank-Bumot-Panniers
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvq4pftj99oiu72/Camel-Tank-Bumot-Panniers-002-550w.jpg?raw=1)
6.5L Camel-ADV-Tank-Bumot-Panniers
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/2gh4thh2fod45jl/Camel-Tank-Bumot-Panniers-003-550w.jpg?raw=1)
6.5L Camel-ADV-Tank-Bumot-Panniers
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/06pbj0gccrqgjv0/Camel-Tank-Bumot-Panniers-004-550w.jpg?raw=1)
6.5L Camel-ADV-Tank-Bumot-Panniers
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Thanks for that detailed explanation, it has enabled me to fully understand how this all works and fits together. Looks good.
This is my next farkle for my AT. 25L capacity is what I liked about the Varadero. Having 25L on the AT, plus the upgraded rear suspension and the DCT model now makes for my perfect adventure touring bike.
Once Camel have completed the brackets for my Givi I'm in.
Cheers from downunder.
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No worries.... glad that its has helped you make an informed decision. VCIF_ThumbUp
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The nice people at Camel let me know over the weekend that they now have a bracket that fits my pannier racks. Of course that meant I have spent some more money VCIF_a_008 .
Yes indeed, one maxillary Camel tank for my AT is on the way... VCIF_varaGrey
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The nice people at Camel let me know over the weekend that they now have a bracket that fits my pannier racks. Of course that meant I have spent some more money VCIF_a_008 .
Yes indeed, one maxillary Camel tank for my AT is on the way... VCIF_varaGrey
Which Givi racks you have? Not that we need the extra fuel here in Europe :)
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The nice people at Camel let me know over the weekend that they now have a bracket that fits my pannier racks. Of course that meant I have spent some more money VCIF_a_008 .
Yes indeed, one maxillary Camel tank for my AT is on the way... VCIF_varaGrey
Which Givi racks you have? Not that we need the extra fuel here in Europe :)
I have the racks for trekker outback panniers
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The nice people at Camel let me know over the weekend that they now have a bracket that fits my pannier racks. Of course that meant I have spent some more money VCIF_a_008 .
Yes indeed, one maxillary Camel tank for my AT is on the way... VCIF_varaGrey
Which Givi racks you have? Not that we need the extra fuel here in Europe :)
I have the racks for trekker outback panniers
Quick mounted or normal?
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I've been looking for this type of thing for my Varadero lately for future touring in the EU. I spent 57 seconds, almost a whole minute looking and then it suddenly dawned on me, I have an adventure, touring bike with an adventure, touring capacity tank, not a sports bike tank. I'll never have to worry about my fuel light bulb blowing, since my last Varadero riding mate changed to a Crosstourer, I haven't seen the light on.
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I've been looking for this type of thing for my Varadero lately for future touring in the EU. I spent 57 seconds, almost a whole minute looking and then it suddenly dawned on me, I have an adventure, touring bike with an adventure, touring capacity tank, not a sports bike tank. I'll never have to worry about my fuel light bulb blowing, since my last Varadero riding mate changed to a Crosstourer, I haven't seen the light on.
Indeed. The fuel tank on the Varadero is the only thing I miss about that bike.
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AT Sport has bigger tank ;)
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My tank has arrived, but I have not yet fitted it. I tore the meniscus on my left knee so am limited in what I can do until it is fixed. Could be some time.
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My tank has arrived, but I have not yet fitted it. I tore the meniscus on my left knee so am limited in what I can do until it is fixed. Could be some time.
I hope you get well soon!