CORONA

[meine dicke]

Just copy and paste and translated by google.

CORONA closes borders:

The Czech Republic closed the border for newcomers from Germany and 14 other “risk” countries on Thursday, and Slovakia prohibited all foreigners except the Poles from entering the country. Denmark, Ireland, Lithuania and Norway ordered all schools to be closed. The number of corona deaths almost doubled in Spain, and Poland reported its first fatality.

Prime Minister Andrej Babis said that people from Germany and 14 other countries, including Austria and France, are no longer allowed to enter the Czech Republic. Czech citizens are also not allowed to enter "these risk areas".

Apart from Poland, Slovakia no longer wants to admit foreigners. The spokesman for the Slovak Ministry of the Interior, Peter Lazarov, also announced the closure of all international airports, schools, cultural institutions and entertainment venues in Bratislava.

In Italy, all trips that are not necessary for professional or health reasons are already prohibited. Schools, universities and since Friday all shops except grocery stores and pharmacies are closed.

Greetings from the South of Germany
and hopefully see us at VIM

Rainer aka meine dicke

[meine dicke]

Is there any crisis planning from the Orga´s in case VIM cannot be reached?

I think of cancellation (storno) or partial cancellation the fee, or ...?

Sorry to ask.
But I think I´m not the only one thinking in this way.

Yes I know as well that we have 2 months till VIM, but it´s always good to have a plan B.

Greetings from the South of Germany
and may the health be with you

Rainer aka meine dicke

[geosidecar]

I agree with the points of Rainer.
I also don't want to see anybody of the Orga-Team losing money.

25 years in a management position lead me to the point: any kind of a clear decision is better than no decision and waiting for something to happen.

Regarding the facts and the statements of those who are not in a popular mode, we will not be able to travel over Europe in May and June. This is unlikely but from my point of view there's no doubt about it. If I should be wrong I would be pleased.

Stay healthy!
Wolfgang

[SB]

For anyone hoping to attend VIM there are several considerations :

• Will it be possible to make the trip - Will borders be open, will ferries be operating, will hotels be open, will fuel be available etc.
• What are the risks to myself - What are the chances of contracting the virus en-route, what are the chances of ending up in quarantine for an extended period, what happens if I become ill en-route.
• What are the risks to others - Might I be responsible for spreading the virus and infecting other people.

The VIM organisers will have to make their own decisions based on their assessments of the risks outlined above and feedback from those who have booked to attend.

[K68]

Today I talked with the organizer in Myczkowianka, considering your doubts we have decided to suspend preparations for VIM (not to generate new costs).

We all paid (also me) money to Marta Szczepanska's company account, this involves the need to issue fiscal bills, which was done.

I asked them to calculate the costs incurred, including finding a solution to tax issues.

I have never seen your money, as I wrote, all your payments went directly to the organizer.

I will do my best to transparently settle our payments and to cause the return of money.

An alternative solution may be to postpone the VIM-22 to September.

Please, give me time until the end of March to back with the more specific proposals.

Kris

[meine dicke]

Kris,

great work you and the orga have done.
Take all your time you need, even it will take time till end of April beginning May.
Nobody did know and nobody will know what will happen with CORONA.

Not to be misunderstood,

I WANT TO JOIN VIM IN MAY/JUNE,

but nobody knows at the moment what is the right way to go.

Here in Germany we have a proverb which says "Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt" ("hope dies last").

In this sense, see us all at VIM in May.




Greetings from the south of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke

[K68]

Rainer,
for me personally it would be a great failure if VIM did not take place this year.
That's why I proposed as a plan "B" VIM-22 in September.

Kris

[Snurrepus]

As far as I know, nobody have asked to arrange next year's VIM.
If - of course I don't hope so - you're not able to arrange VIM this year, maybe it should be postponed one year.
Too early to make the decision, but as a plan C. 

[K68]

Eric,
I still hope we that we will be able to execute Plan A .   

[bogdanbc]

I confirm - so far we have plan A, if our meeting will be banned by the administration of Poland or the European Union - then we will think of plan B or C. For now we have to be patient.

[K68]

I confirm - so far we have plan A, if our meeting will be banned by the administration of Poland or the European Union - then we will think of plan B or C. For now we have to be patient.

 

[zebulon]

Sorry but now it's quietly sure we can not have as expected this next VIM. Surely time to discuss of plan B or C ...
 

[K68]

Gilles, no panic, I think we can wait 2 weeks or even more and then we will decide about Plan B. (there is no plan C)

Kris

[meine dicke]

Gilles, no panic, I think we can wait 2 weeks or even more and then we will decide about Plan B. (there is no plan C)

Kris

Yes,

take the time you need.
Discusion about the plan B, C, D, .... can be whenever.
But for the decision there is no hurry necessary, you can decide at mid of May, because a lot can change until mid of May.

 

Greetings from the South of Germany
Rainer aka meine dicke

[K68]

indeed