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Varadero 1000 front brakes
« on: November 22, 2016, 17:33:46 »
My 07 Vara non ABS has gone through 3 sets of discs this year!! The Honda discs only lasted 4000 miles before the dreaded dipping up front when braking. I am on the point of letting my Vara go due to this. It's had fresh fluid, New pads....sliders are good....pistons move freely. But, here I am...again with the front end dipping on braking😢 New rear and front bearings.
Has any one got any ideas on this please? I need help please!!

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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 18:22:20 »
 Could it be the CBS system requiring a bit of a fettle ?
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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2016, 18:28:25 »
How do you fettle the CBS system? I am open to suggestions.....I like my Vara...but it's costing too much in discs!!

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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2016, 18:38:30 »
Because it's a linked brake system you have to ensure the small brake cylinder on the nearside fork/caliper
 is not seized and that all pistons both front and rear are functioning correctly -- check on the forums for
 more info a quick search may give you all the answers you need.
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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2016, 20:51:17 »

what exactly do you mean by "the front end dipping on braking" ?

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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2016, 21:17:21 »
Warpped.

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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2016, 12:15:57 »
New discs have been fitted with new bolts and torqued correctly on 3 occasions. With new pads. Twice with Honda discs. Sliders are greased on a regular basis. If I cannot solve this...I will get rid of my Vara 😢
I don't know what else to do.

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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2016, 18:15:18 »
Is it both disks or just one side ?

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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2016, 18:33:24 »
Both I think. Last time a Honda garage checked them and said both.😢

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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2016, 17:36:46 »
 I'd still go with the linked brake problem --I've had 3 Deros and only had a rear disc warp on the first one which was
 an 02 model and a known issue, the others, nothing on brakes other than normal maintenance and pad replacement , I did find the rear pads wore faster than the fronts but that's all. Have you checked /replaced fork oil ? what pads do you use ? did you bleed system as per manual ? it's a conundrum but don't despair it'll be something simple and the answers will come . ;) ;)
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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2016, 17:47:50 »
I use Honda pads. Would the fork oil have that effect on the braking?

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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2016, 19:58:11 »
Just trying to get a feel on what's happening , you say it ' dips ' on braking then say discs are warped ,
 in my limited experience warped discs don't necessarily make front dip/dive but you get a 'pulsing' through
 the brake lever [ similar to ABS kicking in ] that's why I suggested a fault with the CBS cos the rear can affect the front
 sorry if this lot sounds b******s but I'm sure some of elder statesmen will come up with a reason better than my
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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2016, 12:22:41 »
The front end bobs up and down when braking. Notice it more in town...slow riding. I am not aggressive with the braking. It has had 3 sets of discs this year!! Help!!😧

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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2016, 17:59:14 »
Log onto the U.K. varadero forum and put warped discs into the search -- plenty of contributions there
and possibly a solution for you --might be a combination of problems .
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Re: Varadero 1000 front brakes
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2016, 23:05:29 »
If the discs are warped, it will be sideways. And then the vibrations you feel when braking will be sideway too, not up and down. Which front type are you having, and how does it look? If the front tyre are worn uneven, like "heel and toe" on the knobs, you might get some up and down movements when braking. The reason a front tyre gets "heel and toe" are old/worn or wrong viscosity front fork oil. How many miles have your bike done?

My Varadero is a 2008 VA model, bought new in spring 2009, so it´s identical to yours (eccept for the ABS), and I changed all three discs at 100000 km. They then were under minimum limit, never warped, and the new (original) ones, have been tightened to the specified torque and done 32000 km now without any problems. I use SBS brake pads.
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